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MASS BATRIDERS VS NIGHTELF (5608 reads, 19 replies, 1 year ago)
HI FRIENDS,

HOW TO BEAT MASS BATRIDER/SOLO BLADEMASTER, WHEN NE.

I THINK DH1st, KOTG2nd, with archers talons and glaive push, and 3 ap in my base with a few archers. is it enough?
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Zipparn
Just kill as many bats so that he wont gain in attacking your base. 3 AP's should definetly be enough. Place them so that they can reach each other
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Rainonyou
erm how are you meant to kill off the bats because they never engage in combat they just snipe buildings
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Zipparn
Cuz the towers should be in your base lulz
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Rainonyou
so theres really no counter to this?
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guigaw
The counter is killing him while he is trying to harras you, if you have protectors and maybe a few archers/dryads/talons in your base you can move your army and kill him while he doesnt have a proper army because he spent the gold on mass bats. Also i guess you can use talons and keep switching form so that you force your opponent to get close to the protectors or run away. You just cant be too defensive or he will take advantage on that.
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Moontracker
Make mass talons like every mu orc/ne and let them in the back of your base until you are rdy to fight. By themselves they can take care of a lot of bats and as #1 said make 2-3 AP's.
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ezprodigy
block off your base with buildings so bm can't get in and put some archers or drayds in there, batriders can't even harras properly because archers/drayds have longer range and does huge damage to it, meanwhile take the fight to his base with your hero and the rest of your army, bm is imba but still not imba enough to defeat the entire NE army.
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killer1nz
get a beastmaster 2nd probably (kotg is pretty useless vs this strat) quillbeasts and lvl 2 hawk are great vs bats and they will probably suicide one each time you send a hawk, get natures blessing and a bunch of expansions and keep wisps near possible expos so he can't expand. you'll be able to constantly deny him because you should have the stronger army. best counter is just to starve him out by not letting him expo. or a t2 push with dh / bm archer talon.
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ShuffleAndDeal
BeM second, Quilly Beast absolutely annihilate harassing bats and place up some APs as well. Go for bears/dryads and you should be completely fine.
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han6666
archers, towers, kotg, not sure about dryads or bats, coz he can quick switch to wyverns
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Evilm
camp mass archers in your base and own orc with few bears and catas... : )
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TUTILUTAS
entagle his peons, you gain exp if they die
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starmoon
it easy win for ne. if u see him doing stop anything u are doing go there put 3 protector in his base build 2 aow and get catapults then some archers and kill him. in that time he will have like 4-5 bats u can easy protect your base with some archers.
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Eli_King
men ,what's the problem?!? :D

Just an early scout, the most common thing that orc do when they want teching to bats is that they're cmaping, if u see that the orc got a warmill, builds towers and rushed u in the start with his hero ( bm... duh!). if u see that in ur scout then just mass archershunts+ glaives, TOWER RUSH THE DAMN ORCS BASE WITH ANCIENT PROTECTORS AND TRY TO DESTROY THE ORC BEFORE HE DOES BATRIDERS!
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Sp3llbr34k3r
I think some of the ideas here are a little over the top...
I have a better suggestion.
Your question is under the assumption that you have already scouted the enemy and learnt they are massing bats, ok great! This is what you should do,
1. Upgrade your buildings armour, bats will sink through ne buildigns without this.
2. I would buy more than 3 ap, prob at least 5, reason being mass bats with liquid fire will cause damage over time and then u r losing gold wood etc.
3. Units HAVE to be archers talons dryad, and I would also get 5-6 hippos, even if its just to get the bats to kamikaze.
4. With NE vs ORC you have to harass and keep scouting, if he goes to build defence, rush him and dont let him.
5. Target his burrows, I personally would get dh and panda because panda will AoE and also att farms with fire breathe

This is an easy tactic to get around if u scout properly. Only orc tatic ne need worry about is taurons, kodos, HH, docs, with tauron king supporting bm. But even with effective scouting u should see this coming.

Hope this helps!

Sp3llbr34k3r
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starmoon
#15 NO thats how u lose to batriders. U need to pressure him early he doasnt have units to stop you. Its very hard to beat bats in late game you dont want to play long game vs batriders. Just protector rush him. I had problems with that but now (i mean when i was playing wc3) when i see bats i am thinking cool free win. #14 got the details for it.
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Eli_King
It isn't realy a strong tactic... I hope my tip was help,regards!!
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2010-11-15 14:26, Eli_King wrote:
men ,what's the problem?!? :D

Just an early scout, the most common thing that orc do when they want teching to bats is that they're cmaping, if u see that the orc got a warmill, builds towers and rushed u in the start with his hero ( bm... duh!). if u see that in ur scout then just mass archershunts+ glaives, TOWER RUSH THE DAMN ORCS BASE WITH ANCIENT PROTECTORS AND TRY TO DESTROY THE ORC BEFORE HE DOES BATRIDERS!


hey Eli_King,
could you post some replays of that, tried that but still did not work well, probably i´m to bad to counter that.. hehe.. tranks
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Eli_King
^ You just have to kill his bm maybe,T2 isn't so important here so u can have money for going to TowrRush him, make a DH, When see you his Hero approches, thקמ face him and buy Dust of Appearance and on the meantime mass 3-4 archer and/or 5-6 hunts and 2-3 glaives,take 3 wisps with you and go to his base, kill his built towers and place Ancient protectors, not too complicated ( In my opinion at this post the only complicated thing is my English :D), and kill his base/units before he reaches the oppertunity for mass bats,just kill the orc before he does :D cheers.
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