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Mephiztopheles
Lol, only the elf gets nuked xD
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2 years ago
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mansnicks
2010-02-09 22:51, Mr.Bozhik wrote:
All of your so called "statistics" look like an "average temperature of patients in hospital, including morgue and reanimation". I say, you can't take 2 absolutely equally skilled players and make them play like 100 games of each matchup to gather the correct numbers. E.g. I beat like 80% UDs with my 15lvl HU on battle.net, but I lose like 70% games vs Orc, so this doesn't mean Orc>HU>UD anyway.


I agree with that that you can't make statistics of how balanced the matchups between different races are. But those statistics aren't mean to be a "balance statistics". They are made of thousands of games from very much very different players [mostly pro gamers].
So they SHOW the statics of how much wins a race vs another race in %.
If they show the real balance is an other question..


And if you look closely to it then you will see that I copied the statistics 5 months ago and 9 days ago. And the statistics changed only in 2 match-ups - NE vs HU and NE vs ORC. (51% to 50% and 49% to 48%).
You see that the match-ups win statistics haven't changed almost by nothing. only the elfs win ration has decreased in the last 5 months.
From that I would say the this statistics show very precisely the balance between the races - at least between gosu level players.

EDIT: btw.. why did only the elf win ration decrease in the last 5 months? I don't remember that a patch would have been released in the past 5 months in that elf would have been degraded... srsly... why?
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2 years ago
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Eli_King
i think that low skilled player :UD>ORC
mid skilled:UD or Orc Will win
high skileld:ORC>UD

and lensum im agree with u,so many players in BNEt r UD cuz they r easy to play,the UD units r only attacking,DK and LIch jsut novacoil and GG.

but orc can hire a good counter vs novacoil such as SH's HW,SOH(Scroll Of healing) and POI(Potion of ivurnarbility).
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2 years ago
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zrmaker
i firm disagree that UD to be moved out of warcraft.
if Necromancer and Banshee are balanced, there won't be it.
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2 years ago
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Eli_King
#64 i think that Necromancers Need more Stuff VS orc cuz all of their abilities can ve dispelled,skeletons too,and that their weakness vs Orc cuz Orc have the best dispell in game,so its useless for bring them vs orc.....

and banshees r good vs orc but they r such as nooby units if TC stuns,it means that Possession is despelled atm that WS lent ,and curse can be dispelled,and AMS is ok......
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2 years ago
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mansnicks
[/Orc have the best dispell in game.....

DISAGREE. UD have the best dispell in warcraft - destroyers
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2 years ago
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Legolito
= imba
Me wanna dance!
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2 years ago
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FiEndFaNaTiC
2010-02-13 12:52, Eli_King wrote:
i think that low skilled player :UD>ORC
mid skilled:UD or Orc Will win
high skileld:ORC>UD


agree'd....i see low level games sometimes...and its always UD>ORC and the oc complains about him not winning when pro's do and shet....UD is a very easy race to learn off the bat bekuz all u do is nuke...and thats about how far u can get being a ud player...not much movement space to switch up ur game as far as heroes go..ofc there are variables but im talking about most commonly...amen
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2 years ago
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mansnicks
so in warcraft there are 5 races:
1. the right-clicking race - orc
2. the no-need-for-skill-just-nuke race - ud
3. the no-tower-no-win-lame-is-good race - hu
4. then I-can-use-staff-it's-hard-micro race - elf
5. the 5th race - moon.

Ahh fuck this shit. i like only the 5th race
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2 years ago
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ezprodigy
#699(the fuck with this number...) the 5th race was the poster boy of I-can-use-staff-it's-hard-micro race
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