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6 months ago
#21

NeedsMoreKodoBeast

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#18 MY COCKFIGHTING ROOSTER HAS 6 INCH GAFFS AND THEY WOULD KILL UR DOG/MANKEY/HUMAN ANY DAY OF THE WEKE.
SO I GUESS UR ARGUMENT MAKES SENSE THAT THERE IS IMBALANCE AS RACES ARE DIFFERENT ESPECIALLY MY ROOSTER WHICH IS BETTER THAN REST
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6 months ago
#22

spirit.BW.TX

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Ah...a idiot...^^
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6 months ago
#23

StenGah

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#17 u whine about whiners..
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6 months ago
#24

myMYM.MrOw

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warstomp is an known issue so are towers/raider ensanre cooldown/spiritlink -.- and dryads
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6 months ago
#25

skyseeker

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Don't find raiders ensnare as imba ... warstomp maybe but when warstomp is imba then surely mk bolt is too -.- 5 foots + mk early = u will lose unit surely
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6 months ago
#26

freaky.SpaNk

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2008-05-28 17:55:06, fenix.sein wrote:
And whether or not the spirit walkers help of course depends on aiming of the dispel, it can often dispel several slows, then advantage for the orc or it often gets 1-2 then advantage for the human.[


Its not hard to dispell all the slows, but slow just keeps on coming, as the sorceress never run out of mana like SW:s do. Also slow is autocast spell and SW dispell isnt. Blizzard and slow and spellbreakers really kill orc army very well.

And still about the air units, when air units hit something they slowly move in the direction they are shooting at, and that makes it easier for raiders to throw the net.

Also the buildings or whatever the chimaeras are shooting at from the 70 range are propably not right next to forest, giving em the advantage of long range, but little further, making it possible to ensnare chimaeras for example. And also about batrider counter vs air: it might cost as much to do the bats, that it costs to do the air units, but only orc gets exp there.


Nothing to add except
that u have to play better as an orc to win a ''same lvl'' human!
The human can play sometimes worse than u but still can win the game because hum has a really nice 'self-working' army!
Sorcs slow all time when they have mana , priests try to heal and breaker steal spirit link or smth.
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6 months ago
#27

aveeno

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Half of the people that posted in this thread don't really know what they're talking about. They try to sound smart, but fail!
sorcs + breakers + AM can beat orc T2 army because:
1. slow
- Spirit walker's disenchant is not autocast, therefore you need more micro
- When you disenchant the slow, you are also disenchanting your spirit link, therefore you use even more mana/micro to recast spirit link ( or don't use it at all and get owned by focus fire)
-Breakers can also steal the spirit link (not sure about this one)
2. Blizzard
-Archmage's Blizzard along with slow from sorcs proves deadly because its harder for enemy to avoid blizzard.
-Spell breakers are immune to blizzard, and therefore the archmage can cast over his breakers without hurting his own units.

HU>ORC
ORC>UD
NE>ORC
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5 months ago
#28

Xenos

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2008-06-05 05:54:57, Aveeno wrote:
Half of the people that posted in this thread don't really know what they're talking about. They try to sound smart, but fail!
sorcs + breakers + AM can beat orc T2 army because:
1. slow
- Spirit walker's disenchant is not autocast, therefore you need more micro
- When you disenchant the slow, you are also disenchanting your spirit link, therefore you use even more mana/micro to recast spirit link ( or don't use it at all and get owned by focus fire)
-Breakers can also steal the spirit link (not sure about this one)
2. Blizzard
-Archmage's Blizzard along with slow from sorcs proves deadly because its harder for enemy to avoid blizzard.
-Spell breakers are immune to blizzard, and therefore the archmage can cast over his breakers without hurting his own units.

HU>ORC
ORC>UD
NE>ORC



Thats why as orc you use imba bm to rape him so he cant play as he would like. :)
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5 months ago
#29

aveeno

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lol yes imba bm or "superman" bm as someone called him.
BM is probably the only DPS in an orc army....and it sure does do a lot of dps lol
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5 months ago
#30

itsRaining-

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easy to focus bm....... hes not superman, dh is
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5 months ago
#31

aveeno

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bm is half superman, he's got the super strong part going
while the dh has the man of steel part going
blade hunter or demon master would be superman!

focus bm: invuln pot plz??
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5 months ago
#32

versago

(Replay management - SC)   8
Bolt BM=GG
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5 months ago
#33

itsRaining-

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^^ bolt bm + focus ---> dead, doesnt matter if he got hp pot, inv pot, invis pot , tp .... hes dead
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5 months ago
#34

mysassyelf




It is imba when your opponent uses one strat, and you need twice as much skill just to counter it.

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5 months ago
#35

versago

(Replay management - SC)   8
Yeah MK is on the same level as BM at picking off individual units/heroes but DH is more smexy for the following reasons:

1. DH has Mana Burn, which stops your heroes from using spells; a nasty handicap.

2. DH has Evasion, which means he can avoid much physical damage you do without the help of spells.

3. DH has high armor, which means that if you do inflict physical damage upon him, the amount is greatly reduced.

4. DH has spell resistance, which means if you do manage to cast out few spells before Mana Burn rapes, the damage is greatly reduced.

5. Even if you do manage to get the DH, a hero with near spell/physical immunity, to red health, the Staff of Jesus Almighty teleports him back instantly, where the Holy Waters heal his direst wounds in 1 second.

6. Even if you do manage to kill the DH, the rest of your army is pretty much dead anyways because of all the firepower and spells you use on him. Now the superman smiles down from the Heaven as the rest of NE army, led by uber Panda, pummels your units to the ground.

7. Even if you do manage to kill the DH, the NE army, and win the game, there will only be more NE's to play against later. After all, NE is the most played race and eventually you'll get sick of playing against NE's and commit suicide. Or you get angry, start pounding on the keyboard, break it, and so your dad comes in and beats you to death. Either way you die.

GG NO RE that's why I'm working out this summer to get DH-like muscles and then I'll get some nice tattoos like the superman.
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5 months ago
#36

Ge.Ge

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Humba > all
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5 months ago
#37

Entertaining

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uhh random pickups?? duh???
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5 months ago
#38

Kakashi

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uh ... UD > ALL
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5 months ago
#39

Xenos

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It's not really race but map/items :-/ thats just my opinion....oh and maybe BM ;)
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5 months ago
#40

MaelStroM

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2008-06-13 07:14:41, VirginTerran wrote:
5. Even if you do manage to get the DH, a hero with near spell/physical immunity, to red health, the Staff of Jesus Almighty teleports him back instantly, where the Holy Waters heal his direst wounds in 1 second.

6. Even if you do manage to kill the DH, the rest of your army is pretty much dead anyways because of all the firepower and spells you use on him. Now the superman smiles down from the Heaven as the rest of NE army, led by uber Panda, pummels your units to the ground.

7. Even if you do manage to kill the DH, the NE army, and win the game, there will only be more NE's to play against later. After all, NE is the most played race and eventually you'll get sick of playing against NE's and commit suicide. Or you get angry, start pounding on the keyboard, break it, and so your dad comes in and beats you to death. Either way you die.


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