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    WarCraft 3 Strategic forum \ Orc vs Mass huntr.. \ Reply #21
    3 months ago

    StenGah

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    i love this thread :D i also have problems vs mass hunts! ty all :D
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    WarCraft 3 Strategic forum \ Orc vs Mass huntr.. \ Reply #22
    3 months ago

    skyseeker

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    i agree with afx , if u see hunt rush u must be sucessfull in you bm rush (that means two things, harass huntress hall and bring it down OR melt wisps so no wood no huntresses) , hide or skip voodoo , fast tech and 2nd rax and demos + batriders (they got extra vs hunt and when u have 5-6 go only with bats harass nelf base)
    in this way a bm good rush is a base to pulloff this correct...
    grunts can do shit and u can't hide wyvs cause u will lost early . so few wyvs , nelf click A LOT archs and cu wyvs ... or got teched and drys ...
    maybe it's possible to dual best and fs/kodo/hh them out... but... hh's sux until their'e berserkers :(
    is there any usage of them in 1v1 at all? i use berserkers but hh seems to be waste unit for me (maybe i cant see something..)
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    WarCraft 3 Strategic forum \ Orc vs Mass huntr.. \ Reply #23
    3 months ago

    Needsmorekodobeast

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    2008-05-17 12:50:43, EviQ wrote:
    @#19 nice one guy! it's true that talons are quite overdimezed, but ork still have tower rush and batriders :-)

    Wow. "ork still have tower rush" What patch are you playing in, thats what I want to know.

    #0 it depends on the number of hunts, but it's not that hard to counter, just don't engage the enemy until you have the right army, and if he tries to kill your base get in your burrows and pwn his brains. Dealing with about 5 hunts is possible if you can micro your 4 grunts, bm, and sh using hex.
    Your grunts with raiders will work with micro, 1-3 kodos help, if spirit walkers are thrown in there its even more pwn, and even getting wyvs works. Just keep an eye on what they're building to counter your wyvs. It's most likely that you'll just pwn him, because a few archers or dryads will get destroyed by your grunts/heroes. Either way, an investment in mass huntresses should work in your favor as long as you don't fight him with fewer numbers/wrong army.
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    WarCraft 3 Strategic forum \ Orc vs Mass huntr.. \ Reply #24
    3 months ago

    fenix.sein

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    I do lot of hh vs undead
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    WarCraft 3 Strategic forum \ Orc vs Mass huntr.. \ Reply #25
    3 months ago

    chickenhawk

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    hh suck vs ud

    coil nova + impale > hh
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    WarCraft 3 Strategic forum \ Orc vs Mass huntr.. \ Reply #26
    3 months ago

    DoomShroom

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    2008-05-31 11:22:46, chickenhawk wrote:
    hh suck vs ud

    coil nova + impale > hh


    now u realize that sein could own u with peons without monitor? :p

    i like to go 2aow hunt & beastman vs orc and push early but best counter for it is rider.u just gotta get em fast.
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    WarCraft 3 Strategic forum \ Orc vs Mass huntr.. \ Reply #27
    3 months ago

    ElvenDreamer

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    hunts sucks
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    WarCraft 3 Strategic forum \ Orc vs Mass huntr.. \ Reply #28
    3 months ago

    Cruxifiction

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    mass hunters is really easy to counter if you got enough mass grunts and trollheadhunters.

    Hunters are weak and die really fast.

    Mass hunters is noob. Archers win agains mass hunters.
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    WarCraft 3 Strategic forum \ Orc vs Mass huntr.. \ Reply #29
    3 months ago

    freaky.SpaNk

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    the easiest way would be bm/sh (but with wards 1st)
    go 1 beastiary to do some raider and from other rax go catas
    thats it)
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    WarCraft 3 Strategic forum \ Orc vs Mass huntr.. \ Reply #30
    2 months ago

    031CkA

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    Vs Hunts i would suggest FS + TC, do alot of hit an runs, keep them from creeping, while u tech. u could get stomp, casters + HH and some wivy, use LS on TC let it take all dmg with mass pots, use stomp, let LS rape with CL + summon wolves while HH keeps there HP down, maybe SH to use healing wave to keep TC hp up, with spirit link, and stun wards + healing. Just follow him around map dont fight untill he trys to creep, everytime he moves to attack your heros move back then move at him again to keep him busy, once he creeps try to jack the EXP or kill one of his units to stall untill u can get the units you want
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    WarCraft 3 Strategic forum \ Orc vs Mass huntr.. \ Reply #31
    2 months ago

    SoI

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    2008-06-24 17:17:50, 031CkA wrote:
    Vs Hunts i would suggest FS + TC, do alot of hit an runs, keep them from creeping, while u tech. u could get stomp, casters + HH and some wivy, use LS on TC let it take all dmg with mass pots, use stomp, let LS rape with CL + summon wolves while HH keeps there HP down, maybe SH to use healing wave to keep TC hp up, with spirit link, and stun wards + healing. Just follow him around map dont fight untill he trys to creep, everytime he moves to attack your heros move back then move at him again to keep him busy, once he creeps try to jack the EXP or kill one of his units to stall untill u can get the units you want


    I wouldn't recommend trying to tech to T3 against mass hunts because if you survive long enough to get to T3 against mass hunts you should have had the game one already if you stay at T2.
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    WarCraft 3 Strategic forum \ Orc vs Mass huntr.. \ Reply #32
    2 months ago

    031CkA

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    you dont need t3, u still have ls and stun ward at t2 with spirit link. u just wont have the sh, which rlly isnt needed, vs dotts its always mass mass mass though
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    WarCraft 3 Strategic forum \ Orc vs Mass huntr.. \ Reply #33
    2 months ago

    EviQ

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    ... mistake...
    This post was edited by its author @ 2 months ago
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    WarCraft 3 Strategic forum \ Orc vs Mass huntr.. \ Reply #34
    2 months ago

    031CkA

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    How so lol, btw in ur pick your Q tipping cigg smoke or pot?
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    WarCraft 3 Strategic forum \ Orc vs Mass huntr.. \ Reply #35
    2 months ago

    SoI

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    2008-06-24 21:04:35, 031CkA wrote:
    you dont need t3, u still have ls and stun ward at t2 with spirit link. u just wont have the sh, which rlly isnt needed, vs dotts its always mass mass mass though


    I didn't say you needed T3 you were, I was just trying to explain that it's stupid in a polite way.
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    WarCraft 3 Strategic forum \ Orc vs Mass huntr.. \ Reply #36
    2 months ago

    skyseeker

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    In this case, i realize that headhunters are usefull unit in the orc arsenal :).manage not to lose any grunt early , depends on map but lvl your BM up to lvl 3-4 , tc with wave not stomp ! (huntress focus pwnz TC unless your skilled and micro tc out with stomp. u can do stomp but in my experience wave is better)and HH with endurance aura pwnz huntress like wet newspaper...just micro and take care of DH and micro ur headhunters .. u must do hit and run tactics , add wolfs , ensnare , chop down huntress or two , go back .. regen (research troll regeneration asap) and again .. when u decimate some huntresses and u have upper hand in army size , go and wave/rape. upgrade t3 , orb/berserker catas with flame and it's gg (hypoteticaly..)
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    WarCraft 3 Strategic forum \ Orc vs Mass huntr.. \ Reply #37
    2 months ago

    031CkA

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    Lol i was saying its not actully needed, i just put it in there if that game goes that long, as long as ne dosnt have any dryads or kotg u can easly kite with a lvl 2 FS and bring down part of his army half health befor u fight, if ur willing to take the time
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    WarCraft 3 Strategic forum \ Orc vs Mass huntr.. \ Reply #38
    2 months ago

    myMYM.Sp1ral

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    Hmmm I dont play WarCraft 3 very much but I would like to tell you that if you provided more information about this strategy and possible a replay you might get some better advice from these fine people. The more information you provide the more and the better your feedback will be so see if you can get a replay please, there are hundreds of sites to upload reps to and it only takes a few minutes:

    Fighterreplays.com
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    or any ofther file sharing site.

    Thanks
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    WarCraft 3 Strategic forum \ Orc vs Mass huntr.. \ Reply #39
    2 months ago

    scr1p7

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    rofl...not at all. Dotts take out the BM/TC...if a ne wastes it on nething else i feel sry for him. ass for mass wyvs...PLZ try getting two beastieries going vs 5-6-or7 hunts. if they get up the NE is just bad. really the orc just has to not lose grunts and pump out 2-3 demos and place them well. no other solution to it. I would suggest TC also vs mass hunt...no need for a SH i dont think. Unless u dont see the mass hunt coming. Which some NE will trick you and build an AOW outside of his base.
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    WarCraft 3 Strategic forum \ Orc vs Mass huntr.. \ Reply #40
    1 month ago

    ToDay

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    ALL STRATS YOU HEARD THERE, like wyvs or tier3, rush tower or BM harras, ARE BULLSH*T !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    U can't kill such NE with U standart 4 grunts, even he is not very skilled, and if he is, U'll lose. I know that very very well, cause I was interested in this quastion, when I lost to such players(massers), who were big-noobs. His huntress will kill U grunts very fast, your BM harras will s*ck, the best what U can do - to kil his 1lvl hero, if it's not DH. U dont have time to build many wyvs, before he build mor archers!

    So, my clanmate on battle.net talk me about one strat, and he said he never lost playing through that. And now, I never lost, if my opponent builds hunts from 2 barracks and makes his tier2 much later, that really works:

    At the beginning U should do everything like always, but U don't need 4 grunts. U should better build warmill and 1 tower, except 2 grunts. U always need well scout as always.Tthen build 2nd barrack, and begin to built headhunters!!! Yeah, mass headhunters! Your 2nd hero will TAUREN CHIEFTAIN with STAN, cause 1lvl wards of SH s*cks vs mass huntress. I think U understand main idea - TC do his stan on hunts, and headhuners kill them very very fast, BM kills his hero. There is some aspects in micro, but I think U know them, if u r too skilled player. You know, I was happy when I begin to use this counter-strat!

    P.S. - Sorry for my eanglish, I study french =)
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