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11 months ago

jodogohoo1
Surrounds (2129 reads, 23 replies)
How do u make a walk in surround. Like you have 5 spirit walkers, and you try to surround the enemy demonhunter. How do you micro the units into the correct positions for a surround?


Surrounding without spells but just by units and movement. Also, not with an insane about of units, but just enough.

Also lets say the unit is moving in a predictable direction.

I was playing this micro map. And I could do okay on the blocking but couldn't do the surround even once, after many many tries.

Is there a trick or something i must do?
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11 months ago
#1

myMYM.MrOw

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the m key lol...
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11 months ago
#2

freaky.SpaNk

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e.g. u have 4 ghouls and want to surround superman
then u just have to have 1 ghoul in each skyway(North/south/west/east)
and if he s in mid of your ghouls just close that surround and done:D
but thats one of the hardest with 4ghouls to surround superman:D
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11 months ago
#3

Des_Star

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You cannot surround superman, you cannot kill superman, you just can hope that superman gets bored and leaves the game.
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11 months ago
#4

FreeZe.

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use the move key ...
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11 months ago
#5

CreamLuNaR

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Never do the noob attack surround technique lol like suggested above, while have selected units in your group, click M key when you feel you will have him trapt.
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11 months ago
#6

jodogohoo1

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2007-12-08 14:20:50, fna.yangloR wrote:
You cannot surround superman, you cannot kill superman, you just can hope that superman gets bored and leaves the game.


Oh. I guess I was training the wrong hero. :S
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11 months ago
#7

thug)chazz

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"M" key :) also there are surround training maps GL
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11 months ago
#8

FridayMooN

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First, just click on the general direction of where 'superman' is going and try to get your units around the hero. Then press the move key and click on the hero and the units should 'close' the surround.

Get ready to speedily replace whatever unit he's trying to kill to break the surround.
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11 months ago
#9

jodogohoo1

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K got it :)
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10 months ago
#10

deathground

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I apologize for asking about the surround again, but I just want to clarify. I don't actually click "m" and then on the enemy I want to surround, but rather click "m" and on the area I want to run to in order to gain position? Then click on the enemy to attack?

I clicked "m" and then on the hero I wanted to surround and they just looked at him from a distance.

If that is correct, then how does the "m" key differ from simply clicking the area on the map as I normally do with just the left click button and no "m" key?

Thanks in advance. This website rocks.
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10 months ago
#11

SoI

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When you have him "surrounded" you close the surround by spamming "m clicks" on him and by doing that bringing your units closer to the target, after that you are free to attack.

I suggest you switch move key to Q or something a bit easier to reach then M though for easier access.
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10 months ago
#12

deathground

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Thank you Soi
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10 months ago
#13

MyTHicaL

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... also go into war3 program files and change the surround key to something actually playable like "q" or something... m is way too far away to actually beable to take advantage of a "possible surround situation" ofc it IS possible to surround with m but i mean seriously the time it takes to jump your left hand across the keyboard (if your right handed) the enemy unit/hero will have escaped the "possible surround situation" ^^;:
an easy way to practice is simple to make a game versus a computer... take 1 footman (exemple) patrol him and with the other footmen practice surrounding him... theres also "surround training micro maps" I believe somewhere... I read something about it but don't have any so don't ask :(
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10 months ago
#14

kYem

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ye q as a move key is good for suround :) atleast work for me
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10 months ago
#15

Zhan

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Well, It's not a great idea to change your move key to Q. I have it, and sometimes when you checking life of units and creeps, you press the ALT key, and then you move with Q, and you just quit the game because It's alt+q+q+qqqqqq :p
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10 months ago
#16

SoI

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Then I would just have a doctor examine my spasm/parkinson problems and hopefully cure it.
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10 months ago
#17

MeatY

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There are programs of doubtful moral to remove the alt-q-q thing :]

autowarkeys.
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10 months ago
#18

treba

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qwer are for hero spells. asd for attack, stop and move. imo the best system.
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10 months ago
#19

itsRaining-

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surrounding isnt really that hard, you just gotta practice it. i really dont think the surro training maps are good, u basicly never get into same situations in real games, if u just want to practice surrounding make some smurf accs and play vs average skilled solo enemies, u can just harras all game and try to surro his units/hero..

dont put M-->Q

alt q q :(
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10 months ago
#20

deathground

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I appreciate all the advice.

The only problem is that I have no idea how to change my hot keys. I noticed that there are instructions in the warcraft 3 file, but they do not help at all. It is too vague.

Can somebody help me with this?
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