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1 year ago
#21

demoneyeslaharl

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XD#19. I'm a dude with a healthy depreciation of oneself (though more for comedic purposes than actual depreciation).

Do display that message though. I'm curious.

#18, now that you mention it, it does sound a bit unfair.

And #16 and 17... thank you for the tips.
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1 year ago
#22

MeatY

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2007-11-30 21:54:39, demoneyeslaharl wrote:
XD#19. I'm a dude with a healthy depreciation of oneself (though more for comedic purposes than actual depreciation).

Do display that message though. I'm curious.

#18, now that you mention it, it does sound a bit unfair.

And #16 and 17... thank you for the tips.


nah, I don't like being mean to nice ppl
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11 months ago
#23

nimirig

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2007-11-29 06:49:22, MrOw wrote:
I am Lois Lane...I Love Superman...


With other words, you love the lvl 6 imba! :D
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11 months ago
#24

SoI

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No at level 1-5 DH is super man at lvl 6 he just gets imune to cryptonite.
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11 months ago
#25

demoneyeslaharl

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lol!

I've been teaming up the warden and mr Kent. :P I like the Mana Burn and Shadow strike combo... Any other heroes worth teaming with DH?
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11 months ago
#26

SoI

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DH+Panda counters WC3
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11 months ago
#27

farsight.

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Vs Ud

Level 3 warden and panda > gargs and ghouls
So get warden lvl 3

only use on maps with easy exp though
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11 months ago
#28

ronnimbl

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2007-12-06 02:57:09, FaRsiGhT. wrote:
Vs Ud

Level 3 warden and panda > gargs and ghouls
So get warden lvl 3

only use on maps with easy exp though


Well, the panda alone almost counters the dryads. I recommend you take DH as first hero against UD. But against UD you have to beware of your heroes. Dont use your staff at a bear in lategame, because then you risk to lose your heroes against nuke. By time you will learn, when you can staff or bear, or when its better to lose a bear and not risk letting your heroes die, but in most of the cases, i would not staff a bear, if you dont have suporior heroes, or UD heroes is out of mana
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11 months ago
#29

demoneyeslaharl

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Yeah, I had a painful lesson about UD heroes. Sleep with Nova and/or Death Coil. Or the other way around for more damage.
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11 months ago
#30

TR-vanilla

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I am surprised to see humans and undeads complaining in this thread.

My tip to you: don't even bother playing vs those races.

UD: coil/nova
HU: towers

That's all i have to say. Thank you.
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11 months ago
#31

SoI

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yeah coil/nova is nice without mana and it wont kill of dryads either.

Towering humans have had a hard time Vs offensive play like dual AoW Hunt/ap push lately too so yeah...

I'm not saying that Human isn't really strong too, but NE is at LEAST equally strong but probably stronger.
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11 months ago
#32

Nilsen

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A good human player gets AM lvl 3 fast and then water elements take down the hunts, and not to speak about the rifles....
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11 months ago
#33

SoI

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A good human player won't get level 3 imediatly after getting his lcearing his expo on all maps and even if he does manaburn is still your friend while hunts rape the peasents.

And rifles VS hunts are pretty equal it depends alot on position, without range uppgrade I would even say Hunts>rifles they both die quickly to eachother but the hunts got the speed advantage.
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11 months ago
#34

Nilsen

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For example on TM, archmage is way past lvl 2 when the elfs DH comes out, + hunts takes time to build. If the archmage creeps right, he should easily get to lvl 3.
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11 months ago
#35

freaky.SpaNk

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#30 thats not true
ud has also forked lightining
so if ur opponent have DK5 lich5 and naga 3 or upside down (lich and naga)
then u can leave , instead of wasting time:D

and human = masonry ftw
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11 months ago
#36

TR-vanilla

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#31 No i'm sorry, the orb kills the dryads, and you have enough mana to nuke anything back to the stone age, mana burn or not.

The only thing human have to do to counter ap-push is to build some towers, repair them, tech and then get two mortars. Remember, human's got the gold advantage.
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11 months ago
#37

SoI

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yeah I forgot human starts with 2 gold mines.

@ 34 yeah he gets lvl 3 on TM but the expo on TM is not espacially quick so Hunt harass works awesome, as you might have seen in several replays. And NO the AM isn't past level 2 before the DH gets out, but he might be before the DH gets there in which case the DH usually gets a couple of free militia/peasent kills.
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11 months ago
#38

Nilsen

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37# he IS atleast lvl2 when the DH gets there + he often gets tome of exp, and then ge have like 3/4 to lvl 3 also. And if the elf hunts push the human, it can simply be countered with not going any expo. You will have the tech advantage, and if you go rifles, the elf has to tech all the way to bears. Because you cant stick with hunts all the game. If the elf player decide to AP push you or something else, you can easily counter it with mortars and towers... and to youre post earlier 31# I would say they are maybe equally strong or human has a slight advantage IMO
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11 months ago
#39

SoI

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Hunts VS rifle balance is as you said a matter of opinion and situation, i totaly agree.

IF the human decides to "counter" by not expoing when he had his mind set to do it, you will have crippled him well. Deciding game Creo VS Sky at WCG finals anyone?
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11 months ago
#40

Nilsen

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You can't really draw conclusions out of a single game, it is much more than just the strat that decided that game. Example: Creo got two tomes of exp and I think the outcome of the match would MAYBE been different if he wouldnt have gotten it. He said himself that he was pretty lucky.

If the human manages to make the elf go 2xRax and dont expand himself, the elf will have some big troubles to keep up with his tech advantage. When the human has rifles for dmg and sorccers for slow, huntress gets pretty useless Imo
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