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Why Grubby and Moon missed the playoffs
Why Grubby and Moon missed the playoffs

Photos by: readmore.de (Grubby) and Fragster.de (Moon)
It is a major difference winning a game with 2-0 or 2-1. That's a statement Grubby and Moon can sign under in bold after last night's second group stage.
The first group stage managed to swing by without any need to bring forth the rulebook to determine which player should advance. But the second group stage which started at 03:00 today, included three 'tie-breaker' situations.
Group A score differenceSky > Grubby 2-0 Grubby > WhO 2-1 WhO > Sky 2-1 Sky map score: 3-2 WhO map score: 3-3 Grubby map score: 2-3 |
Group C score differenceMoon > ToD 2-1 ReiGn > Moon 2-0 ToD > ReiGn 2-1 ReiGn map score: 3-2 ToD map score: 3-3 Moon map score: 2-3 |
Group D score differenceSoJu > Lyn 2-1 Lyn > HoT 2-0 HoT > SoJu 2-0 Lyn map score: 3-2 HoT map score: 2-2 SoJu map score: 2-3 |
Should the tie-breaker had ended where the players had the same map scores, then the next step would be to count the score difference obtained in all the group matches, not just the ones one the same points. Should that still be a tie, then tie-breaker matches would be played.
Fan reactions were very upset and hateful not wanting to understand the rules. Accusations that the ESWC organization were biased towards ToD due to ESWC being French-based were voiced. But all ESWC did was follow the rules that have been official for a long while prior to the grand final.
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| Posted by: | Patrik "Raistlin" Hellstrand | |
| Date: | 3 months ago (Updated: 3 months ago) | |
| Comments: | 25 | |
1st
dang
:s
no grubby :( sad
so damn sad
:s
no grubby :( sad
so damn sad
no grubby no moon= gay tour
Gj
#4 isn't between Grubby and Who , but between Sky
Grubby and Who
3 in a group isn't that great either.
noob tour, no grubby or moon = a fucking noob
tour, FVCK OFF ESWC!! IF I WOULD BE ELIMINATED
LIKE THIS i would go to the ESWC
"leader" or sth and talk and talk and
talk, change rules so its fair for all players,
and if he would not listen, i would beat the
fucking shit out off him.
I'm also very upset about the elimintation of
grubby and moon, but those set of rules were here
for 2 years. Last years other players were
eliminated by those rules so dont blame the
organisation that they just followed the rules
they had for the past 2 years. If you all thought
they were unfair why didn't you say so when those
rules were set up. I also think they should change
the rules but nobody asked for it before moon and
grubby were eliminated....
The very same tiebreaker (goal difference between
tied teams) is used in pretty much every
international sports competition so yeah it's safe
to say you're just bitching because your idol got
eliminated even though they have no one to blame
but themselves.
i dont quite understand the defintion of the
rules.
The rules were spelled out beforehand. With the
remaining cast of gosus, I would hardly call this
a "noob tour". What's wrong with a
slight changing of the guard once in a while?
thx to towers
oh lol you guys whine like you had no life. Oops
my bad.
2 of the 4 coolest players in the world is out.
Guess this isnt gonna be as good as it could have
been (Lyn and th000 the other two players with
"the magic touch"
pf rules or crap ? i pick the second one ... lame
tour ... poor organization... and what the fuck is
this point system .... and does it means that if
you are too gosu and obtain more points .. you
leave because you are kinda out of the point
system ? ;/
So tell me smart people, how should they solve
this tie (another option that doesnt envolve
playing more games).
It was a 3 way tie they cant go by player A > B since C > A...
If they didnt make it to the final stage, its their own fault
It was a 3 way tie they cant go by player A > B since C > A...
If they didnt make it to the final stage, its their own fault
Actually, it's not a tourney without grubby and
moon, they just lose ;)
WCIII professional gaming has the lamest rules.
WCIII should make every player compete against
each other at least 3 times. The players with the
best records go on to the playoffs. WCIII should
have competition rules similar to professional
sports. Instead, WCIII pro gaming has stupid
rules that say one or more losses and you are out.
This is so stupid 'cuz sometimes superior players
lose to inferior players just like sometimes how
top sports teams sometimes lose to low ranking
sports teams. The difference between top
competitors and low ranking competitors is that
top competitors win more often than they lose
while low ranking competitors lose more than they
win.
Now a top player, if not the best player, like Moon is gone due to stupid rules by WCIII pro gaming.
Now a top player, if not the best player, like Moon is gone due to stupid rules by WCIII pro gaming.
grubby > who --> grubby higher than who
who > sky --> who higher than sky
sky > grubby --> sky higher than grubby
like grAyf0x said:It was a 3 way tie they cant go by player A > B since C > A...
after this the only option is to look at the map scores.. how fucking hard can it be to understand?
i would have liked to see grubby and moon continue, but if they didnt play well enough, they dont deserve to continue
who > sky --> who higher than sky
sky > grubby --> sky higher than grubby
like grAyf0x said:It was a 3 way tie they cant go by player A > B since C > A...
after this the only option is to look at the map scores.. how fucking hard can it be to understand?
i would have liked to see grubby and moon continue, but if they didnt play well enough, they dont deserve to continue
direct elimination FTW + some looser brackets :D
same thing happened past ESWC 2005
http://www.esworldcup.com/2005/?ac t=competitions&topic=results&show=group_li st&ligID=24&tID=2767&rd=7&rf=10&am p;mstep=2
Fov did beat Grubby 2-1 epic thriller that nobody expected to happen, then FoV had one map less and Grubby advances.
http://www.esworldcup.com/2005/?ac t=competitions&topic=results&show=group_li st&ligID=24&tID=2767&rd=7&rf=10&am p;mstep=2
Fov did beat Grubby 2-1 epic thriller that nobody expected to happen, then FoV had one map less and Grubby advances.
#21 Owns all
#18 you're kinda funny, first, it isnt "WCIII
progaming rules", it's almost every
tournaments and games rules, second, you compare a
league system with a tournament system, come on
you can't be THAT retard... -_-
What you say is that they should make a league system for ~40 players and make them play 3x against each others, so ~117 matches, and then go to the playoffs, where you have the 8 best... that's just impossible to do on LAN, that would take weeks...
compare this tournament with a tennis tournament, as it should be... and yes, sometime, the top seeds are losing only one match in a tennis tournament and get out of the tourney, bad luck or bad shape, whatever, try again, that's how sport is, we all want that eSports get on a higher level and recognition so it should follow sports ideas, and this is one of the fundamental idea...
What you say is that they should make a league system for ~40 players and make them play 3x against each others, so ~117 matches, and then go to the playoffs, where you have the 8 best... that's just impossible to do on LAN, that would take weeks...
compare this tournament with a tennis tournament, as it should be... and yes, sometime, the top seeds are losing only one match in a tennis tournament and get out of the tourney, bad luck or bad shape, whatever, try again, that's how sport is, we all want that eSports get on a higher level and recognition so it should follow sports ideas, and this is one of the fundamental idea...
For all those that felt this was a bad tour, why
don't you guys get together, develop rules, host
and run the lan, and supply the prize money. That
way you guys won't have anything to complain
about.
I personally thought the rules were great and the event was well run.
I personally thought the rules were great and the event was well run.
These are good rules, you gotta understand that
offline tournaments are on a tight schedule and
the rules need to be fit for that, otherwise it
would way to hard to run these kind of things and
for media to report about it.
The rules are posted beforehand and anyone can make objections to them, it's not like someone is changing the rules or adding new ones in the middle of the tournament.
It is pretty clear from the way these posts are written that it's just the case of people seeing their idols loosing and are having a hard time dealing with it.
What you should be saying is, -great work ESWC for creating such an amazing and great tournament that we can watch. Instead you sit there on your asses and complain whenver you feel that something is wrong for you. Do you think that's a good way of accomplishing anything? Atleast make decent suggestions on how it should have been dealt with. And no, 117 matches is not a good suggestion. As someone already stated, there is a difference between league systems and tourneysystems and they are both used in professional sports. I dare you to suggest something better.
The rules are posted beforehand and anyone can make objections to them, it's not like someone is changing the rules or adding new ones in the middle of the tournament.
It is pretty clear from the way these posts are written that it's just the case of people seeing their idols loosing and are having a hard time dealing with it.
What you should be saying is, -great work ESWC for creating such an amazing and great tournament that we can watch. Instead you sit there on your asses and complain whenver you feel that something is wrong for you. Do you think that's a good way of accomplishing anything? Atleast make decent suggestions on how it should have been dealt with. And no, 117 matches is not a good suggestion. As someone already stated, there is a difference between league systems and tourneysystems and they are both used in professional sports. I dare you to suggest something better.
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