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Go0g3n
2009-07-05 08:53, vedic wrote:
2009-07-05 01:31, Zsork wrote:
I'm not a pro-Obama or something like that, but Its kinda dumb to think you will notice changes just only after 7 months. Its like saying women give birth after one month. Wait 4 years and THAN decide if you regret voting for him or not.


Obama said specifically that we needed to rush the several stimulus packages out, and that it would not only stop the job losses, it would create new ones. So far, we're losing 300k+ jobs per month, 50+ banks have gone under since January of 2009, unemployment is at 9.5% (almost tied with the great depression) with underemployment at about 23%, troop counts have increased in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and we stand to suffer much bigger losses with the cap and trade bill.

It doesn't take 4 years to see the path he has set out. When our debt reaches our GDP, our currency will end up like Zimbabwe.


Hate to burst your bubble on this one, but US national + foreign debt is already surpassed $56.7 trillion, - 103% of the world's GDP, US share of which is about 24-26%, so that's not gonna be the issue.

It amazes me, ppl watch like a 120m "pretend" documentary and they think they know everything or "the hidden truth", like they're in the matrix or smth. Get a life, get your facts straight, do your own research, stop watching populist movies, then you may come to some decent conclusions.
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2 years ago
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PIPILTIN
dude , obama is reptilian.
what can u expect from reptilians?.

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2 years ago
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vedic
2009-07-05 09:03, Go0g3n wrote:
2009-07-05 08:53, vedic wrote:
2009-07-05 01:31, Zsork wrote:
I'm not a pro-Obama or something like that, but Its kinda dumb to think you will notice changes just only after 7 months. Its like saying women give birth after one month. Wait 4 years and THAN decide if you regret voting for him or not.


Obama said specifically that we needed to rush the several stimulus packages out, and that it would not only stop the job losses, it would create new ones. So far, we're losing 300k+ jobs per month, 50+ banks have gone under since January of 2009, unemployment is at 9.5% (almost tied with the great depression) with underemployment at about 23%, troop counts have increased in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and we stand to suffer much bigger losses with the cap and trade bill.

It doesn't take 4 years to see the path he has set out. When our debt reaches our GDP, our currency will end up like Zimbabwe.


Hate to burst your bubble on this one, but US national + foreign debt is already surpassed $56.7 trillion, - 103% of the world's GDP, US share of which is about 24-26%, so that's not gonna be the issue.

It amazes me, ppl watch like a 120m "pretend" documentary and they think they know everything or "the hidden truth", like they're in the matrix or smth. Get a life, get your facts straight, do your own research, stop watching populist movies, then you may come to some decent conclusions.


We don't pay our debt all at once. We are close to reaching a point where we cannot pay out the minimum that would keep us afloat.
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2 years ago
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Go0g3n
#43 I don't believe a 24 y/o wouldn't know that, you print the money to cover gaps, as simple as that. I'm not gonna go into details, but you gotta review US international monetary policy (since 1972) to understand why even printing large chunks of money won't spark inflation in US as high as in any other country, which may end up in the same situation, therefore it's a safe solution so far.
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ig.ahzz
sure this is interesting and all, but its not all that hard to collect pieces of information here and there and make it look like the truth. The 120 min video did nothing but highlight on something that might be the truth.

Secondly, 7 months is nothing seeing the economical crisis the country is facing.

Already the fact that you talked about disney being corrupt means that you're easily believing whatever is brought up to you.
I mean, I couldnt figure out 'sex' in lion king even after looking at that crap, and he says its there? I bet there's some grass in winnie the pooh that kinda bends and goes in a suspicious way? A dick in the little mermaid? come on. Stop thinking like a perv, and the poster in the rescuers is clearly a mistake, which could happen to anyone.
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2 years ago
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Tomkiss
OFC USA is corrupted! I just hope korea blows them all up. poof!
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2 years ago
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Penguin
#5 and #30 grow up, this is a serious matter
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ig.ahzz
I find these videos posted rather funny, but once you remember some things you stop believing them.
For example my case, if you took nearly everything I've said and done out of context and combined in a convenient way, you would think im a racist, terrorist, criminal, etc, and its only a question of time before I commit suicide.
Naturally I'm not like this and have never been, and im sure something like this could be pulled out of any person. Obama is no different, you can combine facts and out of context in a convenient way, but are they necessarily true? no.

It was also funny how this obamas group of people had a secret meeting with no press allowed.
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The problem is? of course they can have meetings with information that you dont want to be leaked to public hands, people would be stupid to think otherwise.

Anyway im done here, this stuff is completely pointless if you think it a bit further. Rather than believing propaganda trash that is thrown to you, make your own research, draw your conclusions of your actual own experiences and remember that it takes much more than 7 months to do any big decisions once you're in a leading position and THEN we'll talk.
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2 years ago
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psyCrowe
i just wonder if my prediction of people moaning about obama and wanting him out will come true.

americans are so simple minded.. "yaaayyyy woohoo new president" .. few months later "WE NEED CHANGE", and the cycle go's on and on and on

btw, im suprised that nobody has brought up how the world is ruled by the aluminati and that the worlds leaders are actually shape shifting reptillian lizards
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2 years ago
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2009-07-05 10:14, Go0g3n wrote:
#43 I don't believe a 24 y/o wouldn't know that, you print the money to cover gaps, as simple as that. I'm not gonna go into details, but you gotta review US international monetary policy (since 1972) to understand why even printing large chunks of money won't spark inflation in US as high as in any other country, which may end up in the same situation, therefore it's a safe solution so far.



But they won't do it , simply because it will devalue the $ and because of China largest $ reserve and its as big feds bonds quantity , it would harm China too much .
Idd the $ is one of the only weapon remaining against the uprising China , but since China & all the East Asia region is supposed to get us out of the crisis , USA will act in China's way .

So it's a safe solution so far , yes but only for USA , and not much for the whole world economics , and the $ is still too important relatively to others currencies like Euro . Inflation would spark up everywhere , except in US , but that would be bad for them too .

Back on Obama and this thread , everyone was expecting a lot , maybe too much from him . You can't just come and sweep aside everthing that was here before . That why he had to keep some people from the former admnistration , like Robert Gates .

AND THE F*** STOP JUDGING A PRESIDENT DURING HIS PRESIDENCY , IT'S HELL OF USELESS .
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2 years ago
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vedic
2009-07-05 10:14, Go0g3n wrote:
#43 I don't believe a 24 y/o wouldn't know that, you print the money to cover gaps, as simple as that. I'm not gonna go into details, but you gotta review US international monetary policy (since 1972) to understand why even printing large chunks of money won't spark inflation in US as high as in any other country, which may end up in the same situation, therefore it's a safe solution so far.


We shouldn't be printing money to begin with, and the Federal Reserve remains unconstitutional.
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2 years ago
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Go0g3n
2009-07-05 14:35, vedic wrote:
2009-07-05 10:14, Go0g3n wrote:
#43 I don't believe a 24 y/o wouldn't know that, you print the money to cover gaps, as simple as that. I'm not gonna go into details, but you gotta review US international monetary policy (since 1972) to understand why even printing large chunks of money won't spark inflation in US as high as in any other country, which may end up in the same situation, therefore it's a safe solution so far.


We shouldn't be printing money to begin with, and the Federal Reserve remains unconstitutional.


...And you make both these assumptions based on what exactly?
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2009-07-04 21:49, Firstborn wrote:
Very interesting.

A corupt government, I never thought such things could be possible. You must be a visionary.


LoL+
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#47

im not even gonna go back the pages to check who made those posts but im assuming its me...

and if u post a serious matter at a e-sport gaming site you ARE gonna hear some jokes here and there, u tell comidians the same?

or maybe u think youtube.com is ignorant website?

ur obviously just trying to get to me but u never really make sense and time after time i keep owning u up like this and im yet shocked why ggnet didnt warn .
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stroggos
2009-07-05 11:19, Penguin wrote:
#5 and #30 grow up, this is a serious matter


if you mean seriously retarded then i agree, this topic is seriously retarded.
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tenshu
2009-07-05 04:14, highinfidel1ty wrote:
2009-07-04 23:23, NastyMarine wrote:
2009-07-04 20:55, tenshu wrote:
2009-07-04 08:06, highinfidel1ty wrote:
2009-07-04 06:53, AoKoJi wrote:
He say he would give jobs to millions of people


That was one of his biggest lies...For example, the closing of 2000 GM and Chrysler dealerships will cost roughly 187,000 jobs. More than the two auto companies employ in the US combined.

Here we come socialism...


You contradict yourself. A socialist would have saved GM and Chrysler.


BONG



I didnt contradict myself as it was two different points all together. I was responding to the fact that "he say he would give jobs to millions of people". Then I was just adding my own two cent into after that. Hence the seperate paragraph for the one statement. If you ever listened to Obamas ideas, you would know he pictures the US turning into a socialist government.

Now I'm doing it again, seperate paragraph next topic, ok? Don't want to lose you here. For the record, the idea of socialism is gravy. However , without going into too much detail(because I'd rather not turn this into a debate) the concept "everyone gets their share wether they have to work for it or not." just doest fly with me.


I find it fairly funny that you talk to me like I don't know what socialism is. Denmark has one of the highest tax rates in the world and our tax system is very progressive. I don't agree with it though.

And I can't figure out why you make two different points that argue for the complete opposite sides? It makes no sense. Maybe you need to make more paragraphs
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WizardsToxi
all of you are beyond pathetic.
if there was some HUGE corruption , some journalists would be talking about it (and no , all journalists arent part of the corruption , paranoid retards).
factual corruption like "you are my friend so i help you a little , or well , i cant say "no" " has always existed and will always exist.
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iN.XeliN
2009-07-05 11:19, Penguin wrote:
#5 and #30 grow up, this is a serious matter


Jokes in a farfetched, youtube-heavy conspiracy thread? what is this madness!



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tekko
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You become what you think.
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2 years ago
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lmao.

All I have to say is that if it were McCain, shit would HIT faster and harder.

Wow, just realized, the reason many people picked Obama is because there would HAVE been a lot worst.

Hmm, I need a beer now. -________-

Obama isn't the savior, he was a possible game changer, but the way his plans are looking....*sigh*.. It's a little less more of the same. But you can't just point the finger at Obama.

Considering the fact that the UNITED STATES congress has been full of cold blooded, special interest, cowards for quite some time; it'll be a while before anyone starts seeing any progress from there. It's quite sad really. Usually congress would be the place to FIX shit....but since it's knee deep in donkey and elephant shit.. where's the hope?

For example, the U.S. needs a health system overhaul if it's to sustain itself any longer. Knowing that big pharmaceuticals run the health care show, if you think otherwise then please step out of your cave, it seems like a hopeless situation. Obama is trying to PUSH for an overhaul of their "brittle" system, However, their congress is so COMPROMISED that if you want to OVERHAUL the system YOU have to get BIG PHARMACEUTICALS TO JUMP ON THE BAND WAGON. This is a tragedy that is not only limited to the U.S. but other foreign institutions as well. So think about this...if you want to overhaul the system but can't pass the legislation because you can't get any of the big pharmaceuticals to approve of it, then wtf? And the SAD part, just LIKE THE "HISTORIC" climate bill that just passed, is that if he does write legislation that is "passable" it'll be FULL of compromises that only BENEFITS BIG PHARMA. It'll be full of hand outs towards insurance companies that do nothing to solve the problems of their clientele base. This is what you call pragmatic legislation..passing legislation only for the sake of PASSING it. Politicians get hard over boasting on an approved bill. It's pathetic. Watering down a bill for the sake of the fucks that got them into this mess is tragic and detestable.

Special interests lie on both sides of aisle. And it'll only expand. When government officials are bought out by (GREEDY)corporate interests then you know shat is aboot to hit the fan. It's time to start preventing corporate feudalism from ever taking place on the global stage.

Sorry, if you think this has nothing to do with corrupt officials and power hungry corps.

PS. Not all corporations AND politicians are evil. Remember that.


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