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3 months ago

Batibot323

How to Improve my Gameplay? (495 reads, 11 replies)
I lost in a ZVP match in ICCUP. I thought he was going for Bisu Build, FE, Fast Sair, DT. So, I tried to use July's timing attack wherein he massed hydras and lings and went low-econ. But, I saw him warping 2 or 3 more GW's, so I decided I should go Muta. Am I wrong in deciding to Muta?
Whenever I did Muta Harass, I hated the delay in ICCUP, because I really can't dodge storms that fast.

I know that I played poorly late-game because I got like 1k or 2k+ gas at some point. Though, I kept my minerals to an acceptable amount, spent them every time I can.

Can you guys point out my mistakes and and advise me on how to improve my gameplay?

Here's the link to the replay.
http://screplays.info/files/152444645/8-24_I_hate_ICCUP_DELAY.rep
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3 months ago
#1

080485

  11
Delay in iccup? dude..there is no delay with chaoslauncher..

If there still was delay..you did play vs some very bad connection guy you shouldnt play vs to begin with

.. Sorry for not having time to watch ur replay, but had a feeling you should hear the truth.. ^,^
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3 months ago
#2

barnbum

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Well I DID have time to watch the whole replay. Now you are obviously better than I am, but here's my 2 bits worth.

First off you did a lot of things right. You followed the old army dictum of "Hit 'em where they ain't" well. It's easy to say but hard to do. Your drop on the enemy main was off target. You took out 2 gateways he hardly needed. Perhaps clearing his probes would have had more impact.

I also noticed you were leaving a fair number of half- and three quarters -dead HT alive. There were maybe half a dozen that could have been finished, and they came back and hurt you. If they are wandering around half dead and away from defense, nail 'em.

Lastly, no defilers. Maybe there was no chance to get them, I don't know, but my gut says there should have been some.


So that's the story the way this noob sees it. It might be all wrong, but it is at least stuff to look at and check out.

ps I gave some thought to the loss of your expo -twice-. But I can't make the call, my game feel isn't good enough. Should more resources have gone to its defense? Would that have left zealot herds running rampant across the plains?
With the benefit of hindsight, it seems that it would have been better to wait a little and get it up, running and strongly held, rather than lose it twice.

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3 months ago
#3

kagemaro

  1
can't see your replay. hope to see this so i can comment as well

GL HF~! XD
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3 months ago
#4

zKod

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If there's a delay in iCCup, then you're not using the launcher.

sc.iccup.com - download the Antihack
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3 months ago
#5

Batibot323

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#3 Why can't you see my replay?

#4 I'd try to download the AntiHack, but I believe I've already downloaded the things I needed for ICCUP.

What I meant by I suffer more because of delay is that when I fight with hydras, they're clumped and I just move out of a psi storm when it comes to lessen the damage done. Delay won't affect him casting psi storm, but the delay would really affect my response to dodge.
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3 months ago
#6

Tavo_Nova

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well hydras do get sucked in the middle of the storm, anyways, and yes you could have gotten defilers, if you dont want to use swarm, there is always the high blood pressure defilers spits out it could help you out in some tight spots, oh and you allowed him to destroy your expo twice which gives him an advantage, for zerg 1 less hatchery means 3 less worms, 3 less units, 1st, you could have scattered your lings and borrow them or something around the map so you could see whether he is advancing or how large is his forces are, and you lost your mutalisk, oh and more hatchery if i might add, and improve your macro, as your micro ain't that bad but still it doesn't hurt to improve it too, so you can pay him back a couple of folds, and i do agree about clearing his probes instead of some other buildings, since he would be massing anti air units and probes, or more like producing, and if you blast out his gatherers then when the new ones comes out you could easily destroy them or at least let him waste money on probes as it gives you time to retaliate your army, and go in position, you also allowed him to make expo without even a fight, you should not allow that to happen and never allow your expo to be blown to pieces without a fight either XD, well thats that, there are more but the others will point out the rest XD
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3 months ago
#7

Gi.KriggY

  1
U need expand more, because if toss and zerg has both 2 expos, zerg will lose.
I think u had to do 4hatch BO against FE, so build your 3rd hatch on another expo (i build it on nearest spawn positions natural, cuz i have 1 free expo covered by this one) and then another hatch in your main
U cant play whole game with masshydra, when u have hive u have to build ultras or add lings with crack. But if u want to get ultras u need at least 3 maybe even 4 gases.
EDIT: i forgot write here about 4th hatch in bo..sry :)
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3 months ago
#8

Odeur

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FE's counter is 4hatch BO
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3 months ago
#9

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3 months ago
#10

Batibot323

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Points taken. I'd try to use burrowed lings as scouts next time. What do I need to fight those mass speedlots, goons and archons? Would ultra and cracklings be enough?
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3 months ago
#11

glockinyotits

  1
you did a lot of things wrong not trying to be mean but to get better u need to improve on a lot. I think one large problem was when u choose to go 3 hat hydra break it is absolutly essential that the probe does not spot what you are going for. (keep hydras in main above ramp and use lings to deny probe entry or kill probe and prevent another probe from exiting)i don't play with all in strats but i am zerg user i am pretty sure that is an all in vs any better protoss player. so because the toss wasn't very good and didn't gett any cannons to protect his mins you caught him with his pants down(nice switch to mutas wouldn't have worked vs any better player i don't think) and it gave you a shot to get back in the game, in that time you should have been rushing to get lurks and containing him using scorge and muta to pick off observers and grabing and additional 2 expos or more later and teching to hive. thats my advice. also im sure u know but ur macro was pretty poor having 3 idle larva hurts u extreamly bad if you are ever going to make it to high C or B ranks u gotta work on that and you can't miss overlords i don't know if you did but that hurts because then u can't spend your precious larve which you need to be using constantly!! gl keep on practicing, watching replays and reading advice on these forums youll get better with time ive seen it happen first hand
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