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    Strategic forum \ Has it been tried? \ Reply #21
    2 months ago

    SaviorSelf

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    2008-06-25 14:56:01, lp_lpjuunin wrote:

    2008-06-25 14:41:05, SaviorSelf wrote:
    What about all in sair harass on his ovies, then just zeals to mop up rest?

    He can't make lurkers or hydras or anything cause no food for units, and since you have so many sairs, the few spores he has won't do anything.

    If you can't kill him, you can at least take over the map while he is on defense.


    If you're mopping up ovvies all over the place with sair harasses, why go lots? Go with dt's. Destroying ovvies doesn't just destroy food supply for Z, it destroys their detecting ablities as well. Lots can still be taken care of if Z already had a massive army in first place, but the only way to counter dts with ovvies is spore colonies all over the place. In that case, with your sairs, dweb sunkens/hydras while dt's quickly destroy any spores in sight. Now they can't detect at all, gg no re. ;D Don't bother dwebbing spores, you want to destroy those, not disable'em.

    EDIT: Oh btw, one question to anyone who has tried cors+reaver combo..are Reavers affected by dweb as well? In pro vods, I see pros dwebbing all over the place when they reaver drop, since hydras will be everywhere, and their last resort is going right up in the reavers' faces. Obviously, dweb also goes there until the entire screen turns into a silvery pool of silence (due to no attk ^^). But do reavers still get to fire their scarabs? Aren't scarabs counted as units of their own? (check bwchart, they're counted as units pretty much, they're not affected by Z's dark swarm since they're counted as suicide "melee" units, and logically thinking, they do have to be built with minerals like any other units). If reavers can't fire under their own sairs' dwebs...why do pros dweb on the reavers themselves besides wanting to avoid a head on fight? Then pretty much the whole reaver drop is off since even they can't shoot...


    i was saying go zealot because since you have so many sair, you spend all your gas on them, this way, you can make more zealots than dt. even if the first wave of zeals dont kill them, the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th will...and by that time, you'll have the whole map :)
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    Strategic forum \ Has it been tried? \ Reply #22
    2 months ago

    mrbobby

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    2008-06-27 05:53:08, SaviorSelf wrote:
    i was saying go zealot because since you have so many sair, you spend all your gas on them, this way, you can make more zealots than dt. even if the first wave of zeals dont kill them, the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th will...and by that time, you'll have the whole map :)

    coz..... like.... its not like toss doesnt try and kill all lords when toss goes sair/dt as is very common.... so obviously zerg's loss to this every game and dont have a counter and cant keep their lords alive while fighting off sairs and making an army for attack.....
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    Strategic forum \ Has it been tried? \ Reply #23
    2 months ago

    SaviorSelf

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    What I'm saying, is just a wreckless assault on zergs ovies with sairs, with no regard for sair hp or anything, just suicide mission, kill all ovies. Then zeals too kill everything else.
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    Strategic forum \ Has it been tried? \ Reply #24
    1 month ago

    mrbobby

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    2008-07-01 19:25:40, SaviorSelf wrote:
    What I'm saying, is just a wreckless assault on zergs ovies with sairs, with no regard for sair hp or anything, just suicide mission, kill all ovies. Then zeals too kill everything else.

    and what i'm saying is that if just being suicidal with your 'sairs were an effective strat then maybe this might have been noticed. since mass sair/dt is a common strat, if just being suicidal with sairs would kill all overlords, then it would be done all the time. my point is. zerg know how to save lords.
    ps sairs and more expensive and slower to build than lords.
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    Strategic forum \ Has it been tried? \ Reply #25
    1 month ago

    Xosha

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    The zeals are useless under Dweb. This dies horribly to Hydra/lurk. I don't see how this idea could be conceived. The is no upside.
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