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    Strategic forum \ Build Order Compi.. \ Reply #101
    4 months ago

    Vis

     2
    Very nice job. I've been trying to teach my friend some Terran but I could never get any builds through. Thanks ^^
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    Strategic forum \ Build Order Compi.. \ Reply #102
    4 months ago

    YVW

     1
    sorry for being a noob, I played only with my friends until not so long ago and we use our own phrases, but what is a:
    Gundam
    Joyo

    thanks
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    Strategic forum \ Build Order Compi.. \ Reply #103
    4 months ago

    Vis

     2
    Gundam is the name of the person who started the strat i think... dno about joyo, prolly same thing
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    Strategic forum \ Build Order Compi.. \ Reply #104
    4 months ago

    YVW

     1
    and what does it mean? (what's the idea behind it?)
    This post was edited by its author @ 4 months ago
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    Strategic forum \ Build Order Compi.. \ Reply #105
    4 months ago

    undieinglight

     1
    On the first post the standard two gateway range is listed as:

    "8 Pylon
    10 Gateway
    12 Gas
    14 Cybernetics Core
    15 Pylon/Dragoon Range
    21 Pylon
    25 Gateway
    (((Variation - 15 Gate, 16 Pylon for faster second Gateway)))"

    However reply #83 lists this build as:

    "8p
    10gate
    12assim
    14core
    15p
    17goon
    20range
    21goon
    24pylon
    25gate
    goon
    (many unit/skip probes variation: 15Gate, 15p, 15goon, 17range & two goons, 21pylon & two goons)"

    I think that the first post should be updated to this.
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    Strategic forum \ Build Order Compi.. \ Reply #106
    4 months ago

    Toxic.Poison

     3
    Gundam is also known as Metal. It's when Terran uses only Sci and units from the Factory. No bio units. The point of this thread is to let people with low skill and low understanding of the game, grasp the most basic aspect of it. Also, updated, I've been busy as has LoC.
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    Strategic forum \ Build Order Compi.. \ Reply #107
    3 months ago

    liNk

     3
    good job ;)
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    Strategic forum \ Build Order Compi.. \ Reply #108
    3 months ago

    undieinglight

     1
    The first post lists the PvP safe tech as:

    "8 Pylon
    10 Gateway
    12 Pylon
    13 Zealot
    16 Gas
    17 Zealot
    20/21 Cybernetics Core"

    In reply #83 knickknack said it should be this:

    "8pylon
    10gate
    12assim
    13/14core
    --after this it goes off into variations, but I'll put something common--
    15p (15gate is rather uncommon)
    17goon
    20range
    21goon
    24pylon"

    I think that this should also be changed in the first post.
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    Strategic forum \ Build Order Compi.. \ Reply #109
    3 months ago

    undieinglight

     1
    Sorry double post.
    This post was edited by its author @ 3 months ago
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    Strategic forum \ Build Order Compi.. \ Reply #110
    3 months ago

    edahl

     1
    The PvZ Fast Expand-build opts to build a zealot on 16, which is impossible with 1 pylon. I think both the PvZ and the PvP-builds look a bit off ... ?

    Oh, and very nice thread! I'm writing things down in my notebook ATM :-)
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    Strategic forum \ Build Order Compi.. \ Reply #111
    3 months ago

    Toxic.Poison

     3
    Yeah, there may be little I guess glitches in some of the builds seeing as LoC and myself are the ones that do stuff to the thread, and with LoC being in the military right now it's just me, and the thing is we are both Zerg. ^^

    So, it takes the community to make this thread 100% accurate.

    Also, if you have an understanding of surplus, as well as basic knowledge of the game, not meaning to sound rude or anything but you should be able to figure where the pylon goes when your playing ;)
    This post was edited by its author @ 3 months ago
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    Strategic forum \ Build Order Compi.. \ Reply #112
    3 months ago

    jesson_ph

     1
    what is the best way or BO if u wanna reaver drop? . because most of the time i go for the standard 1 base reaver drop the terran out macro me. why? because he usually go for the fast CC . now when im ready to drop my reaver they are able depend it. so now im stuck with a reaver and shuttle + late expo compared to him. which in the long run i get left behind. so what do u think is the best way if i wanna insist dropping reaver cuz its really fun to blow things up with it.
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    Strategic forum \ Build Order Compi.. \ Reply #113
    3 months ago

    Toxic.Poison

     3
    Personally I'd go two gate goon, and then jump into Reaver before obs, hide the shuttle, and yeah, most Terran I think would still be susceptible to Reaver harras. Also when your harrasing be sure to Expand.
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    Strategic forum \ Build Order Compi.. \ Reply #114
    3 months ago

    MeSaber

     1
    Build Orders has no point of the game as you have to adapt game to enemy
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    Strategic forum \ Build Order Compi.. \ Reply #115
    3 months ago

    Lord_of_Chaos

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    #114, so you go ahead and try to reinvent 10 years of sc evolution in one night dude.. or try to tell beginners to just "adapt"..
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    Strategic forum \ Build Order Compi.. \ Reply #116
    3 months ago

    edahl

     1

    2008-06-04 10:48:17, Lord_of_Chaos wrote:
    #114, so you go ahead and try to reinvent 10 years of sc evolution in one night dude.. or try to tell beginners to just "adapt"..

    Pure Intuition School of StarCraft 0
    Being Realistic 1
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    Strategic forum \ Build Order Compi.. \ Reply #117
    3 months ago

    MeSaber

     1

    2008-06-04 10:48:17, Lord_of_Chaos wrote:
    #114, so you go ahead and try to reinvent 10 years of sc evolution in one night dude.. or try to tell beginners to just "adapt"..


    I sure do remember the old days when you had no build orders and yes.. you adapted.. and we were beginners ;p

    But sure.. go ahead and tell the beginners that they should build exactly like this and they will be safe and probably win :)

    All build orders need to be adapted to the gameplay.

    Having a static build order will probably make you dead in most games, and then people will still ask what they did wrong.. Because they cant adapt to the enemys build order ;p

    And to the guy that wrote the post.. "high risk build order" this is really dependant on map. it would never be a high risk on a 256x256 map for example.. or a map where you have a lake inbetween your enemy.. or if the enemy expanded..

    Its all relative to the gameplay ;p
    This post was edited by its author @ 3 months ago
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    Strategic forum \ Build Order Compi.. \ Reply #118
    3 months ago

    PokkiTeam

     1
    So send us a bunch of your replays were you win using your own adaptive build orders.
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    Strategic forum \ Build Order Compi.. \ Reply #119
    3 months ago

    Toxic.Poison

     3
    BUILD ORDERS, and THIS THREAD, are for people who are new to Brood war and want to get a grasp of the game. It's a way to help then quickly learn the basics and gain a solid understanding of game mechanics.

    See if this community had like a handful of decent people, when the noob comes in a plays a bunch of games and says I died cause this what do I do, it shouldn't be hard to say, BO are not solid stone you have to do what you can to survive and gain an advantage. Then when they go off and add like 4 gateways to a 2 gate goon build and go why did I lose I had more gateways, we can tell him about economy. Everyone here seems to think they were so gosu to begin with and that they are just born with skill and everyone below them doesn't deserve help.

    Screw them, let them think they are gods, because sAviOr and BoxeR couldn't give too shits if they seen them play, but you know what then can respect. A community that's willing to take the time to keep something they love alive.
    This post was edited by its author @ 3 months ago
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    Strategic forum \ Build Order Compi.. \ Reply #120
    3 months ago

    ayadew

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    Nice
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