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Oblivion Hack Creator Interviewed
Oblivion Hack Creator Interviewed
Zynastor, the creator of the infamous Oblivion hack tells us why he does it, his point of view on hacking, and plans for future hacks.
NaW-Emerald over at www.teamnaw.com gained a rare chance to interview Zynastor. In this 19 question long interview NaW-Emerald was able to provide us with insight on the man behind the hack.
"I suppose the main reason for me doing this (developing hacks) is for fun, i am not out to ruin your ladders, leagues or anything like that."
An amazing look at the creator of some of the most damaging hacks ever to sweep the StarCraft competitive community.
-"Oblivion is downloaded from the original source website about 500 times every day. That equals 15 000 downloads per month, or 180 000 downloads per year."
The interview begins with how Zynastor got started in the hacking scene and takes you all the way to his future plans in hacking. You will not want to miss this one; NaW-Emerald has done a fantastic job and really brought some insight into the man behind the hack.
| Links |
| TeamNaW.com - Zynastor, The source behind the source |
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| Posted by: | Kirk "Cotton" Panitz | |
| Date: | 1 year ago | |
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| wooot~ and yeah.. people kill people.. Colt didn't kill people if you dont know Colt. Well he invented the 1st automatic hand gun and was first tested by occupying soldiers of US in the Philippines.. its zynastor=colt or kalashnikov=colt.. lol hack FTW! |
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| you folks are angry at the wrong person. YOU SHOULD ATTACK/INSULT BLIZZARD FOR NOT CREATING ANTI-HACKS. NOT THE HACKER HIMSELF. THANK YOU |
| i think iccup antihack is 0 :| |
| His skills are not that great to apply to Blizzard guys, hehe, don't exaggerate. I mean: creating oblivion doesn't take such skills, I have no idea what skills he posses in general. Every past cracker can do such program easily, starcraft is an old application and it's asm code is like a book for small children. There were shitloads of maphacks in the past made by many different people and zynastor is by no mean responsible for whole hacking in sc community, it's just stability and user friendlyness of oblivion that made it such popular ;) You shall thank god that no skilled whore bothered to make antiiccuplauncher and sell it for money. You can't stop hacking as long as data of whole map is avalaible for every player. There are many solutions for this problem (there were a paper on it written by some Polish guy), yet all of them involve modifying SC original source code, which is pretty much pointless now when SC2 is about to be released. Hopefully Blizzard implements some more sophisticated antihack code to SC2. |
| I hate you, Zynastor. Death to hackers! |
| NaW the hack connection i think this is a fake interview... easy out |
| #54 Try programming Oblivion yourself. Or even try programming a hack to make your life easier in Starcraft. In the end, Zynastor's creation of the hacks is truly harmful for the competitive scene. But on the other hand, it also strengthens security for the game. So its a cycle. & if Zynastor isn't the man behind the hacks, it will be someone else. This won't end as there will always be sadistic coders waiting to make it fun for themselves while forgetting how others feel to be cheated on. |
| He has a whole site of SUUUper admirers. And u can even donate money for the cause. While i agree that hacking can help stop other hacking, uhmm i dont see that this is the case here, because he is just making hacks and distributing it like crazy. How is it blizzards fault? If you go break someone's possessions, is it the manufacturer's fault for not making them stronger? Obviously what he is doing is completely wrong. But i think the laws say its ok. :( |
| <3 Zynastor > Blizzard in a few hours after each patch |
| Nice that a criminal idiot gets advertisements on every Broodwarpage, no wonder this kind of ppl continue their work... |
| #54: ye but making hacks totally easy, and distributing it like xrazy, just introduces more people to hacks that maybe wouldnt hack otherwise. And saying if he didnt create a hack someone else would, would only be valid if he actually contributed in a way by making his hacks. I mean lets say u live in a country where lots of people die. AAHh lets kill someone before someone else does whaaah. Only if u could kill them in a reaally humane way AND you know for sure theyd be killed anyway would it be better. |
| #61 But he's not killing ppl for fucks sake. #57 If I hadn't tried I wouldn't have said that it easy. |
| ye i know. but was first thing i thought of after u guys spoke of guns and nukes. :( |
| """"If it wasn,t him it would have be someone else"""" ??? well yeah, and I would be piss off against someone else, so what the point. Since it him i'm piss off against him. I,m trying to find the logic behind this sentence, but it's simply impossible!! |
| Speaking of private servers. ICCUP has an anti-hack which they claim is working against all known hacks released on your hack-portal. So i ask you. Is it safe as of your knowing? - "Yeah, its safe from my hacks. I have not made anything to get around the ICCUP launcher. I have had many cash offers for a working private maphacks and stuff like that but i havent accepted any." YIPEEE YEAHH |
| Hacks can be compared with PC viruses, spyware, spam, ... They suck, no question about it. "Yes, but the people who make viruses force programmers to make their programs more secure" --> more or less the same discussion... It would be like people making new viruses for humans to force pharmaceutical companies to work harder and find better cures. It simply doesnt make sence. He ruins the fun of a lot of people for his own fun/Curriculum vitae, one could call this at least selfish. |
| I don't care about hacks. I use no cheese strategies at all, so seeing all map will not help them =P |
| The moral statements of some people are just weird. Like.. "I only use hacks in the Bnet for fun and personal advantage" Oh wow.. in this case everything is OK.. omg. Using hacks just ruins mp games and distorts the game. Yeah personal advantage is always fun right? Like it would be probably fun to kick his ass and take his computer away? Also some sort of one-sided fun? The only place where people can use hacks for their own responsibility is the singleplayer. Plus if coding hacks and use them is for his own fun why he has to release them? Probably because he needs attention and recognition for his "well done" work to lift up his self-esteem. Such interviews and people commenting about his coding skills are even will to give him that. |
| I think some of you guys are forgetting the fact that he doesn't FORCE anybody to use his hacks / tools /whatever.. I really don't understand, why aren't you mad at the players who are so lame to use hacks, especially in some prestigious tournaments, where money is at stake.. This guy made something quite big and he decided to share it with public - it's not his fault that some players are so mentally weak that they can't resist using hacks.. And btw comparing this to viruses is really dumb, because you won't install a virus on purpose, because it doesn't do any good to you at all.. I basically agree with 4BiddenKnight - he did an amazing piece of programming work (even though it's a cheat), but the usage is all on the players responsibility. Geez, you are judging him like he made program that would shutdown Bnet servers or delete accounts etc.. -_- |
| Blizzard should hire that kid and let him work from home, would save alot of money for them (Reputation). Edit: Making better, safer and new Hacks is his competition, playing Starcraft against other people is ours. Zynastor should try to join the real scene (Razer1911 and so on) and make Trainers for new games or cracks or something instead of spoiling a classic game for many people. The level of competition would be alot higher for him there. But i guess there will always be people making Hacks for Starcraft. |
| fuck hacks |
| most ppl in here crying out some "fuck u bastard.." shit are noobs as far as i can see. how come? |
| #57 > try programming a hack to make your life easier in Starcraft Easy. The difference between 'good' and 'evil' in this case is how I would use the information from SC memory. The program can watch my opponent's actions and inform me about all illegal actions it found (multiselect, selecting non visible objects, mineral exploit etc) or the program can print opponent's actions on my screen. From this point of view Zynastor acts like 'dark-side'. |
| you dont get angry on the person who invented the knife.. you pour your anger to the person who used the knife to kill other people.. OMG some people are just too shallow-minded.. |
| Well he does not look stupid. What about making a petition from the bw communauty to ask him to not release hacks for iccup? Maybe he would accept. |
| T_T He is not at all a retard or a noob but I just think it's sad that he doesn't use his skill to make good things for SC, good that he does not plan to do anything against the ICCUP anti-hack though. |
| #69 "And btw comparing this to viruses is really dumb, because you won't install a virus on purpose, because it doesn't do any good to you at all.." So people which play against maphackers do that on purpose? You see a checkbox when you play against someone with Oblivion that ask you: "Alert: I am using a maphack if you disagree click this button"? According to his interview he is a developer, a releaser and a user. So people should be exclusively angry on users only? #74 What has a maphack function to do with a knife? A knife can be a usefull tool. A maphack only exists to take an unfair advantage over other players / opponents in a game. If he doesnt intend it to use it for iccup and other competitive tourneys it is good but it doesnt change anything about that he uses it in Bnet and makes it available for everybody to use it where they want. I think hateful flameposts arent much usefull but still there is nothing to praise about developing maphacks and making them public. |
| Does this guy realy deserve an interview ? does listing all features hacks can have and "how fun it is to hack" deserve a special post here on gg.net ? We have hit a new low in the SC community... |
| The interview shows he will be hacking SC2... Fuck him...Insane noob....If he doesn't want to ruin the game then why the hell are his hacks public. My great grandfather isn't that stupid...and hes dead >_> |
| as long as his hacks don't interfere with the games then i'm ok. I don't hack but if he creates a hack that stops others from hacking then i will try that |
| "Yeah, its safe from my hacks. I have not made anything to get around the ICCUP launcher. I have had many cash offers for a working private maphacks and stuff like that but i havent accepted any." LOL yeah right. |
| Finally some people that have senses are responding here. I love how most people here in this thread still responds with the "OOOOOOO LOOK ZYNASTOR NOOB BCUZ HE FUCKIN RUINED SC LIFE" Big whoop. It's his way of having sadistic fun. & like what other people such as Zergeater said, it's the people that download the hacks that should be crucified. Those are the people that want the extra edge without having to work for one & those are the real sore losers of this community. #79 Like what Zynastor said in his interview, he spent so much time on Oblivion. Why bother enjoying it just for yourself when you can shell it out to the public to see what work he has done. |
| Zynastor FTW! I'm out from any BW community and from B.Net by months, but i still follow this website sometimes... The really jerks here are all of you "Pro-Nerds" who waste their lifes in this game, flaming and insulting a smarter guy than you are, he's able to create and manipulate the codes and patterns of a game created by such a software house like Blizzard. You are the jerks, the douchebag, the nerds, the idiots who cant do nothing else than playing all day long in sick ladders and try to become a "pro"... It's just a game, god damn! SC is just a game! Zynastor is much much better and smarter than all of you blinded and retareded by years and years wasted in this game. Flame me now... nerds! |
| #83 for some bw isn't just a game, using a hack is as killing someone in "real" life, shame most of them don't really know what that is but paying 200 games a week is absolutely normal ;) |
| I think he's cool. Doing his own thing, ;) It's not like he plays the game and if you use any hack it's up to you, right. Must be rather skilled at haxing stuff up. |
| great read...interesting. No need to hate the guy...hate the people that are using his hack. |
| SC noob with good programming skills > SC pro with no skills |
| #83 Evidently, those so called 'pro nerds' are the ones that disappeared quickly, while it's us, the guys who have come to our senses, that's responding to this thread now. Too bad over at TeamLiquid, they locked that thread to make sure nobody defends this guy, or come to their senses & realize his C++ skill is something to give him credit for. |
| guns dont kill people, people kill people.... |
| if he doesn't care and just uses them for fun, why goto such great lengths to hide that he's hacking from everyone? Especially that everyone knows hes the hack maker, hiding that he hacks is pointless. I understand having fun on Battle.net, and how it could be fun to beat people that normally you would never be able to beat, but making the hack so hard to detect, his actions are hindering the competitive scene outside of Korea, and just show that he might not be doing this just for fun. Although, I do have to thank him for showing moral discretion. He has the power to do a lot of things to completely destroy competitive gaming, yet he (purposely or not) does not. I'm just glad theres a good side to this all, and I hope anti-hack detection evolves as fast as the hacks are evolving. Definitely props to the 'good guys' :-) |
| I don't think Blizzard endorses third party programs like the Oblivion hack so he clearly has done something wrong (maybe even illegal? I don't know). However, of course it's not his responsibility if people choose to cheat. It's that simple. One can question his ethics though. |
| he is also ruining war3...on bwhacks there are undetectable war3 maphacks/tiehacks/drophacks... for free download...and they are actually undetectable by bnet warden...its fkin retarded...blizzard is only avoiding lawshuit cuz its troublesome -.- |
| lol omg ppl all over the place with hacks =)) |
| A person that invents something that can only use to harm, is responsible for the people harmed by it. It only makes sence. I would feel real bad if i made a easy suicide kit, and millions more people commit suicide during the next year. Obviously laws dont work this way though |
| He is an attention w*ore.. Sure he has programming skills, so what? Could use them for something good, there are so many stuff to work on. Why mess up a game with "unfair advantages"? I could ignore the fact that he made them and use them.. but make it public has no purpose but to brag .. 'hello, I'm so leet i can hack SC and make an uber program to f*k things up'... bah... having skills and using them in a bad way is worse than having no skills at all! |
| Good interview by NaW-Emerald and yes I am the creator of Oblivion. There will always be someone making hacks for w/e game you play and with these leagues/tournaments you play for starcraft its the hack users that are ruining it for you, not me but if you want to blame me thats fine. You could eliminate 99.9% of the hack users in these leagues/tournaments you play by forcing players to use some anti-hack program that will search for known hack offsets, sorta like the ICCup launcher. Anyways, I have read in several posts that people like some of the features from Oblivion like the timers and APM counter. I wouldn't mind taking some of these features you want from Oblivion and putting them into another hack for all of you to use, if not no problems. |
| please just stay away from the ladders ^^ |
| Blaming him for all the hackers is the same as blaming Blizzard for all the addicted players to World of Warcraft. |
| #83 For me it reads just like some kind of fanboy post with 0 thoughts in it. The world doesnt exist only of one type of people and what do you know over internet? I think especially casual gamers hit it when many people are using an advantage via hacktools in a online game. Since they arent that good plus have a disadvantage then. So playing just for fun in certain period of times becomes more useless. People that got pro ambitions will mostly got their trainingpartners and their Bnet friends that they trust to become better. |
| Maybe just kill him.... |
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