WGTour & Battle.net
Posted by Ragnar "Entropy" Birko 5 years ago

If one shouts loud enough, often enough, and long enough, even the gods hear. Once woken, they will then usually proceed to smite you down with fire into deadly silence. However on rare occasions, either due to a humorous whim or the grace of divine generosity they will grant you what you have been praying and demanding to the four winds all these years.
- WGTour and Battle.net cooperation -
Today while at work, on an unusually calm day, I wrote these rantings at 1com. Though it took me a few minutes the ideas had been brewing in me for quite sometime now. Forgive the blog style, I am sleepy and tired, but some news can not wait and up they must go. Let me share the exact rant with you.
| Battle.net Ladder Revival. It needs to be done. If Blizzard does not address the issue I think some one has too. Anyone could - all the elements to make it happen are there with the penguinplug launcher and our collective experience running ladders. I feel that WGTour should lead the road in this matter for obvious reasons - its history, it’s previously working system and success, its current relative inactivity - but I do not see it happening without the collective effort of every community. With the current penguinplug-launcher-WGTour-option and Battle.net's vacuum of top skilled players due to PGTour current frenzy of high level competition I truly think WGTour could and should do better in medium to average range of players. The average 400 - 3000 game player, i.e. the bulk of gamers out there, is the ideal candidate for what I have in mind. These often give up after 20 consecutive losses, something which is not rare in PGTour, and end up spamming forums or finding other activities but playing the game which is why we are all here. . I love the fact that we have a awesome ladder/server completely independent from Blizzard as it proves that we can exist and thrive without our mother goose - almost guarantying us a future even if she fully abandons us. However I believe the lack of a decent ladder at Battle.net will ultimately hurt us all - in fact it has already hurt us enough. Blizzard still seems to be sleeping on the matter and their ladder is still pointless. All the elements are there to have a revival of this ladder. It is time we do something about it. Such a revival must be prepared now and must start with Blizzards next patch, and it should target the average unknown player. We also need to somehow draw in those million BGH and fastest $ players, make tournaments for them and then slowly but surely teach them the true path of Starcraft gaming. There is a huge demand but few have offered this community anything but shunning and disdain, including myself - but I am willing to change in order to bring the horde back to true gaming, even if it is getting them involved through BGH and a fastest ladder initially. There is no reason why we should only have one mode of ladder. Other rantings to come.. - at work brb Entropy |
Then I go back to work, the day picked up and came back home wasted. I found something interesting to post about, the note about the crazy Korean Air Force plans, had dinner, watched a movie. Before calling the day off I logged on to check on the site one last time and find this in our news tip pool provided by
oG)Dinnin:![]() |
Guys, it is not April fools and either Santa came to town, or I swear sometimes I think am Houdini. No, I am not Houdini. I am just the loudest frog in the pond, and super natural frog or not, I share with all, the same dream - a working ladder at Battle.net. I am sure there is still some work to come, but this is the most encouraging start we have had in a while. Now the next step has come, the demise of all current hacks and bugs, the time has come for a major patch, patch 1.14. I hope Blizzard does not make us wait too long for it! Enjoy!
-- Update -- (15:06 CET)
No official word has been posted by WGTour or Battle.net with information about what terms this cooperation will be under. There's more to come and we will of course update you as soon as possible. We leave you with a quote from the news tip's source:
Will take some more weeks to launch but its gonna happen soon
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| Battle.net - Source |
| Cool ^^ |
| in clear? any official Blizzard news ine the next days? or WGTour news? moreinfo plz ! :) |
| i dont get it... blizzard just links wgtour page on site? Well, its a start.... |
| This might be a missunderstanding.. I think in order to provide an active ladder at their website, they've linked wgtour.com instead of their own inactive one. Anyone know if they'll cooperate with wgtour, or are they just linking? |
| i don't get it ; p i mean what it gives us? |
| You overestimate your own worth. I have no comment about WGT's involvement at this point :P |
| Doesn't seem all that interesting to me. Blizzard linked to WGT's ladder cause their ladder sucks and noone plays it, thus giving the impression that they care about a working ladder. Not to mention the fact that if you don't know the web address or have a link to click, there's no actual link to that ladder page anywere on the battle.net site. |
| #7 is right :( However, there was a rumor that they will release 1.14 patch whitch will add ladder ala Warcraft, but I never believed on that. Anyone heard it, or something new or like it? It would be cool no doubt... |
| How about being positive huuuuh? Atleast blizzard cares somewhat. They keep track on our communityn and as Entorpy says, maybe if you scream loud enough and long enough, there might be something they'll do. |
| I must say I like PGT a lot, but the big advantage of a new official Blizzard ladder would be: It would probably attract more new players who usually would only get frustrated on PGT. And it could have an automatch-function like the WC3-ladder. |
| If blizzard fix the ladder, it would be beneficial for the whole community, no doubt. I just hope that, if there is a new patch, that it actually does this, and not simply delete the hatchery bug. I will watch blizzard.com closely for the upcoming days, and see if they confirm this. Until they had, however, I remain sceptical. |
| If it has an automated matching system and fixes the new crashes/hacks, it will be the best patch for BW ever! The hope dies last :)) |
| Very very good!!! |
| This means jackshit, blizzard has made no real progress with this move. |
| that would be very n1:auto matching sys and arranged team like wc3 they need 2 fix the bugs and damn drop/money hacks im getting sick of it ;/ |
| "Oh RLY!?" @ #14 |
| this might be huge :) |
| does it mean we get a pub ladder on bnet that isnt bullshit! *cry* ive waited so long EDIT: Guys, they're going to launch a patch that will work with WGT is what I understood. |
| huge indeed :D |
| this is just a dream T_T |
| Wow I'm about to cry from being so happy :-D |
| I dont think they should have the automatch function....I think they should have it the same as it is now just fix it....As in get rid of all the winbots and force people to play it legit somehow. They also need to fixc all the drop/money hacks as well. And it would be great if you could still play FFA on ladder... |
| I hope that blizz would get such a ladder! Would be an enormus perk for us (me) mac-users who have not been able to play any ladder scince WGT12 |
| Well, we did promise Mac users will be able to play next season, right? :P |
| nice news, good job Entropy. your my hero =) |
| thats just awsome |
| The point with them linking to WGT's homepage is that they actually ACCEPTS the launcher wich is a HUGE deal!!! |
| "The point with them linking to WGT's homepage is that they actually ACCEPTS the launcher wich is a HUGE deal!!!" Exactly. |
| why they didtn took pgt o.O |
| For a simple reason - they didn't have anything to offer to PGT that PGT didn't have. PGTour already has automatic game reporting, they don't need Blizzard support for it... |
| hi Ilintar! |
| hi ZpuX :> sorry I didn't get to own you in the losers bracket :> |
| I still see no one denying this :) |
| man, just link :( amm is just a dream |
| i can deny this if u guys want 8D |
| 2 Words.. Fuck Yeah |
| Sweet BALLS!!! I can't wait for the next patch!! |
| hehehehe sergio on wgtour gl ;) |
| It has been quite awhile since I have last visited www.battle.net |
| Blizzard linking up to a ladder that spends more time offline than online. Nice! |
| Hummm i hope it gets fixed.... but wtf BGH and fast money maps ladder? arggg that's ******. I Guess WGTour is preety fucked up 2 do something like that.... anyways PGTour owns them both Gg... |
| lol #41..u didnt understood that we were kidding? lol |
| #40. In the last couple of years Pgtour has had more down time than Wgtour. ...yeah. |
| Sure Revolve, if you count the years we were not open yet, you are right... |
| I don't see any benefit on it ^_^ rofl |
| #44 > #43 haha nice pat :D |
| All this is kinda funny, but anyway, it worth it. I dont see in any ways it is a bad things, Blizzard finally care about us, it's a nice start no? |
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