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Artosis on what to expect in the TSL quarter finals

Posted by Patrik "Raistlin" Hellstrand 2 years ago
We've seen ret in many ZvZs lately, while we haven't seen much of SEn's game against Zerg. What speaks for ret to advance?

ret's ZvZ has just gotten sickly better recently. His Mutalisk micro is very strong, I'd consider it top 2 foreigner with Kolll, and his overall understanding of the matchup is quite good. SEn on the other hand, while being a great player, has always had problems with ZvZ. He, like ret, has had stints of off-racing vs Zerg. The difference is, he didn't spend a whole month in Korea practicing ZvZ every day like ret did.

What did you think of ret's ZvZ series against CaStrO? Did it turn out the way you thought it would?

Yeah, I thought ret should 3-1 CaStrO. As far as it went though, ret played really really REALLY far below what he is capable of in ZvZ. He just returned to the Netherlands a week or so before, and didn't really practice at all for the match, and admittedly, he didn't play very well. Despite that it was still good by foreigner standards, and he advanced. I'm sure he will practice all week, and get his ZvZ to a much more beautiful level than we saw vs CaStrO.

The next matchup is Fenix against Mondragon. I believe many were in awe when they saw Mondragon's play against BRAT_OK. Do you think he can continue up with an even better game against Fenix? What are his chances here?

I tell you, I was in awe as well. I know this guy is a legend for a reason, I've seen his games and played vs him for years, but this was something else. I was completely impressed by his strategic and solid play. His decisions were absolutely top-tier in every way (except maybe his strategy choice in game 3). Mondragon is just an impressive beast, and he certainly has strong chances vs Fenix.

"I think it would be ignorant to say that he couldn't be an OSL champion if he had followed that path at some point earlier in his career."
- Artosis about Mondragon
But, BratOK didn't play an overly impressive TvZ game, he did nothing spectacular or, in fact, anything that made me think "damn this guy is so good". I think Fenix will bring a more fresh approach, with at least some impressive moves against Mondragon. Fenix is quite good, but I have to give the edge to Mondragon still. I'm excited to see the match either way.

Some say Mondragon has a bit of a sloppy play, not macroing enough, but still ends up winning. How good do you think he COULD be if he had the mechanics of, say, kolll?

Mondragon is someone who has always had the potential to become a top-tiered progamer if he wanted to put in the time and effort in Korea. Of course, he's been happy to just be a top player outside of Korea instead, but I think it would be ignorant to say that he couldn't be an OSL champion if he had followed that path at some point earlier in his career.

And what do you think of White-Ra's chances to take down the reigning champ JF?

White-Ra is, of course, capable of beating anyone in this tournament (except maybe ret). Unfortunately for him though, I think the worst matchup for him in the entire tournament might be vs JF. I see them both as "micro" players (of course, they both have amazingly complete games, but I'm talking about their strongest point, their style so to speak). The thing is, JF's strongest micro-management skill is with Reavers. As we saw at the finals of the last TSL, he 3-0ed even an in-shape Draco with his Reavers. And after watching JF beat GosI[Terran], it is quite clear that JF is in very good shape at the moment. I really think he will beat White-Ra.

Last, but definitely not least, we have IdrA against NonY, a rematch of the fourth seed match. Is there anything that speaks for NonY in this series?

Yeah, of course. NonY is confident in himself for this match. This means a LOT. NonY never displays fake confidence. If he thinks he can win, its definitely not outside the realm of possibility. In addition, Andromeda is the first map. For anyone who saw the first great series, after just 1 week of practice, NonY still won this map. Starting out with this map in the first game could give NonY some strong tempo going in if he wins convincingly.

IdrA used to tilt horribly and lose lots more games after losing a game 1 in the past, but he has gotten better at not letting that affect him. IdrA has to be the favorite, but I think this match is going to be absolutely AWESOME.

You've had the ability to study IdrA up close being in Korea, what does he have in his gameplay that other foreigners do not?

IdrA gained completely solid macro management through never giving up on his style. He can certainly out-produce everyone in the tournament, even NonY, ret, and SEn, the other known macro players. In addition, he has by far the best builds, and possibly the best understanding of the game, just from playing nonstop with Koreans all day every day.

What are your predictions on the TeamLiquid Starleague quarter finals? Give us your thoughts in the comments!


 

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#1 nino 2 years ago
gogo almoust polish protos ! :D
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#2 UBERtoSS 2 years ago
Nony is the one who will take down Idra!!
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#3 foititis 2 years ago
Ret's ZvZ = Too good!!!
I hope that Nony will take down the Idra guy ! An i hope he will find the g in his keyboard since he never types gg in time ^^
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#4 Aiur 2 years ago
From what I know of these players is that Fenix very often tries to get an edge from doing a cheese of some sort in game 1 and mondragon just has to good timing for that to succeed and besides that mondragon is just a better player and will win that.

Idra and Nony.. well what can you expect besides Idra winning that one if he can keep his temper for loosing first round. Yeah I think Nony is gonna win the first round then lose it.

SeN! my all time favourite zerg besides Mondragon. Actually everyone thinks SeN is gonna lose this one maybe cause of huge advantage for ret playing in korea while SeN have not. Ret has a bigger weight on his shoulders though to win this would mean he could consider his gaming in korea a success, while losing it would be a huge upset and that is alot to think about.
SeN on the other hand has nothing to lose so I belive he will be the "dark horse" in this and probably end up in the final with Idra and that one is gonna be an AWSOME game!
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#5 myMYM.MrOw 2 years ago
OctZerg > SEn zvz....

anything goes...
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#6 PnV.logi 2 years ago
#2 lol
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#7 LRM)OctZerg 2 years ago
lol SEn got good zvz dont know why u guys think that ret gonna pwn sen? :O omg like i can see all who make interview dont know what zvz mean.....
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#8 dimoid 2 years ago
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#9 PsychoBaBas 2 years ago
Predictions:

Ret > Sen
Fenix > Mondragon
White-Ra > JF
Nony > Idra
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#10 drewbie 2 years ago
octnoobzerg <3 but ret will smash sen so hard LOL
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#11 AnyTime 2 years ago
"As we saw at the finals of the last TSL, he 3-0ed even an in-shape Draco with his Reavers."

It was 3-2 in jf's favour. 3-0?
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#12 Tr00per 2 years ago
Babas you put all the arrows wrong
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#13 azureone 2 years ago
Idra will take it all
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#14 tid- 2 years ago
my predictions:
Ret > Sen (3 1)
Fenix < Mondragon (3 0)
White-Ra > JF (3 2)
Nony < Idra (1 3)
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#15 Korean-MILF 2 years ago
Ret > Sen
Fenix < Mondragon
White-Ra < JF
Nony > Idra
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#16 Get.Enron 2 years ago
This is what I think is going to happen;

Quarter finals
Ret > Sen
Mondragon > Fenix
White-Ra > IefNaij
IdrA > NonY

Semi finals
IdrA > White-Ra
Mondragon> Ret

Finals
IdrA > Mondragon
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#17 sKopheK 2 years ago
my predictions:

me > tid-
me > korean-milf

noone cares, right? same as for #14,#15
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#18 MgZ)DetO 2 years ago
#11 jf was down 0-2 in games where he didnt use reavers. when he started to use reavers he went 3-0 with them ;p so overral 3-2 yesh. but point was 3-0 with reavers o,o
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#19 PiPez 2 years ago
nice interview :B
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#20 telecom 2 years ago
gogo fighting
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#21 GoodMemory 2 years ago
Quarter finals
Ret > Sen
Fenix > Mondragon
White-Ra > IefNaij
IdrA > NonY

Semi finals
IdrA > White-Ra
Ret > Fenix

Final
Ret > IdrA
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#22 Deletethisaccount 2 years ago
I don't think JF is in good shape...

he just did super cheese and that is because he did not feel himself in a good position against the playstyle of Gosi[Terran] ...

in the other hand Gosi[Terran] was so dumb by falling in to the JF mind game, cause he got so "scared" and he was only camping on his base... which is the worst thing you can do against a protoss like JF.

Nevertheless, he did manage to pull out a fantastic comback in the second game.. I got very impressed and exited as well ... I screamed to the monitor and said " yeahh take it f@ck1ng cheeser " haha ;;
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#23 aGOny 2 years ago
yeah sure, or maybe GosI[Terran] aint that good as u claim? overrated as hell if u ask me
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#24 okyo 2 years ago
#23 agreed.
And sorry to all fanboys, but imo, so is kolll.
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#25 tid- 2 years ago
sKopheK #17 or whatever

After reading the news once again, you might -if you can use your brain decently- catch

"
What are your predictions on the TeamLiquid Starleague quarter finals? Give us your thoughts in the comments
"
Sucker.
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#26 dranjam 2 years ago
[Gosi]terran imba pro, so now JF is uber skilled for defeating him? Or maybe Terran sux balls, and JF will too? Stop with those "predictions" Artosis, you fail at this, you are a pissed weather man, not a prophet.
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#27 OminouS 2 years ago
So looking forward to this. Going to be great.
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#28 DD-TS 2 years ago
#17 you look st00pid.. :D edit comment plox.

i agree with #15.
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#29 inco 2 years ago
I'm just not going to care about flaws in this and that and who's stupid and whatnot, I'm just going to enjoy the heck out of these games :D

Thank you for the interview, btw - fun read ^^
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#30 SiG 1 year ago
Get.Enron i think if it comes to it ret will rape mondi,
zvz is too mechanics based and has effective but limited strategy and tactics;
playing to rets strengths and mondi's weaknesses
 

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