SearchIdrA moves on to Playoffs
Posted by Lasse "Get.Enron" Engen 2 years ago
ESL Major series is close to the playoffs, with the qualification rounds finished. Ret didn't show, and it's still uncertain if MaNa will be given the walkover or not. | ESL Major Series | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Group | Qualified players | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| A |  kogeT | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| B |  aCe | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| B |  IdrA | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| B |  White-Ra | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| C | Mondragon | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| C | MaNa* | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| C | Strelok | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| D | Draco | |||||||||||||||||||||||
The qualification games are done, and we're ready for the playoffs. IdrA and kolll played a 2-1 series, with IdrA having the upperhand after losing the first game.
Strelok took won 2-1 against Dreiven, and qualifies along with with MaNa if he's given a walkover against Ret, and Mondragon who qualified by winning his group with a 3-0 score.
Only kogeT qualified from group A, as MorroW lost to White-Ra 2-0, and kolll as mentioned lost to IdrA.
Update:
When asked if he gave a walkover, Ret had this to say;
- "I don't know if it will be a walkover or not, I just know it was 3 AM, and I was sleeping".
So there's still no source on wether still will be played at a later date or MaNa gets the walkover.
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| nice, gogo Mondragon |
| why ret gave W.o ? |
| Yeah, what happened? Why w.o.? t.t |
| its incredible that gosugamers even posts this news when its totally clear everyone will ask why ret gave w.o and they dont know it T_T well at the very least they could add a line they its unclear so far. |
| GG ret you're out :) |
| 4# welcome to gosugamers, oohh :D super deal XD |
| News updated. |
| lol, they forgot that ret is in korea now and therefore in a different timezone? |
| THanks Enron. Thats WAY better :D |
| #9 ;)) |
| #2 ret is tired of korean mentality some retards in sc community like those who spamed him while he was streaming |
| no.11: What? i dont understand your post....... |
| ret vs mana would be very fun to watch hope they work it out |
| #8 no etbrood its not THEIR fault its Rets fault sry but idra managed to play his games vs kolll earlier so if ret have no time (sleep or whatever) he can just tell it to the admins and play earlier/later too but he didnt ! (and he knew since half a month that he have to play) i know everyone is ret fanboy but if mana want win i am sure he will get his win because ret wasnt able to tell anyone that this is bad time ^^ |
| ps: also esltv is always on this time so when he want to play in a tournament (with money pricec) who is 3am the time he live he should make it possible to play or not participating ^^ |
| #14 You seem to know everything. Do you know rets situation? I don't think so. Maybe he confused something or he forgot about it because of his situation in korea. We don't know, you don't know. I think just giving w.o. is BS. |
| #16 everybody should be treated equally , if he didnt show up then its HIS fault , i really like ret , but this really should to be v.o ... #14 i rarely agree with u , but i have to on this post :P |
| why do u keep asslicking this ret? not showing up > wo i dont care that it was 3 4 5 AM it's a tourny respect the rules! or what? u are a too big player cuz u failed 2 courages and everyone must to make the program to fits u? hahah what a joke u are |
| Looks like Ret don't care about this tournament...with all respect, but I think rules should be the same for all players. |
| Why do I get the feeling that there's MaNa-fanboyism going on in the last couple posts? You're talking as if you knew exactly what was happening which isn't the case though. I bet if IdrA was in ret's position right now the situation would look VEEEEEERY different... everyone would try their best to get him back into the tournament as fast as possible. If admins didn't let him back in there would be MASSIVE spamming of forums going on and shit. |
| the thing is nobody else in this tour has gotten a w.o just like that easy. when xiaozi didnt show up for me we had to reschedule like 4 times before they gave me w.o. so imo its most fair to at least give ret 1 more chance to show up before mana gets w.o |
| gl everyone! to bad morrowie ! |
| Poor Ret. |
| how can ur opinions be that it would be correct to give him w.o? It is a leauge full of great players and i dont think it would be hard for mana and ret to find a time thats suits them, dont we want to see the proven best players in the finals? |
| #21 you're right, i know from ace rescheduling his postponed games like 3 or 4 times, so ret should have at least one try to reschedule :) |
| I hate agreeing with Col_Drake, but he is 100% right. It just was ret's fault, maybe arrogance. There are "only" 750 Euros in play @ ESL. He could have pre- or postponed it, but he didn't so he had to play this time. He didn't appear, Mana did -> walkover! It's really that easy. A league doesn't have to run after a player, there are rules and if you want to participate and win money you have to follow these rules. |
| #26 Ret is not anyone, he's one of the best foreign SC players right now. He deserves to get SOME kind of privileges. Of course he should've postponed the match in advance but just pounding on the rules in such a big event would be lame. Does anyone think it'd hurt MaNa to agree on playing the match now or tomorrow? Is that really such a problem? Where is common sense, have we gone completely braindead? |
| #21 MorroW speaks truth |
| rules are rules and no1 deserves special priviledges, especially from ESL's money leagues. Punishing arrogant players regardless of (how good they are) is always a good thing in any respectable league. Take a look at SK Gamings Ban from ESL's WC3L. |
| #29: I agree, and if no one deserves special privileges then Ret should get a couple of re-schedules just like everyone else? \o/ |
| #29 First of all it's not a punishment, it's a rule. So you must be confusing something. Second of all ret is not arrogant. And third of all arrogance has got nothing to do with this. This kind of stuff is exactly what makes people retire from the SC scene, because there's absolutely zero tolerance for small mistakes and nobody ever makes an exception when it'd make sense to do so. Tell me: will anyone be harmed if ret was allowed to play his match? You perhaps? No. Anyone else? I don't think so. Oh, wait. MaNa wouldn't like it! Because he might lose! Oh, and all the other participants in the EMS wouldn't like it! Because everybody knows that ret is much much better than MaNa. Eliminating such a threat in a legal way sounds great! I can see why people wouldn't want to give ret a 2nd chance. It makes complete sense. |
| I agree with #28 hence with #21 :D If they allow reschedule it's probably be ass kick ;p maybe that's why they gave a w/o so ez xD (i'm just kidding xD) |
| :P im glad fatty isn't in esl :), GOOGOG MANA :P |
| well this is completely different from ur situation with xiaozi morrow , you vs xiaozi was during the group stage this was playoff , playoff decides if u are out or IN so it's ur totally responsability if you show or not , and by what he has said "I don't know if it will be a walkover or not, I just know it was 3 AM, and I was sleeping" it shows he didn't even care about match otherwise he would talk to some admin or Mana saying he couldn't play and to pp |
| #34 How does it show he didn't care? Sleep = no care? Explain yourself. |
| #35 most of the times i agree with you , but ... your accusing us for Mana-fanboyism , yet you are ... ret EXTREME fanboy yourself :( sad and not showing up for a game is a v.o ... it really is , no matter how other players postponed their games , it was just wrong not showing up = v.o , it should be serious , especially when money is involved #34 actually speaks the truth |
| I'm not a fanboy, I'm trying to support ret because he's one of the best foreigners. Simple as that. I just don't understand why people need to have a stick up their ass in this situation. I can't accept this type of behavior, it's so counter-productive. If ret didn't show up in the Ro8 I'm damn sure he'd get a 2nd chance. As if it'd make any difference, rules are rules right? I'm pretty sure whenever IdrA doesn't show up he won't simply lose the match, he'll definitely get a 2nd chance. Remember my words. |
| I find it interesting when people say things like "especially when money is involved". We aren't some money grubbing community of Starcraft aficionados. Why should the involvement of money have anything to do with the tournament rules, and execution? For those of you who didn't catch that this was a rhetorical question, money should have no affect on tournament rules and regulations. While I agree that players should be treated fairly under the rules, I think that as a well mannered community, we should be inclined to offer forgiveness for minor offenses, which is what this was. Since we (the community and tournament officials) are in a position to offer grace in this situation, we should do so. The beauty of this game is that we have a certain fluidity in regards to being able to reschedule matches quite easily. Technology FTW. d:- D |
| Brood sry but u wont get it or? but first the best part u wrote "Ret is not anyone, he's one of the best foreign SC players right now. He deserves to get SOME kind of privileges". yes its ret so he can have other rules etc. and can do whatever he wants. rule is rule. and he said nothing 2 them that he couldnt come or whatever. and if he sleeps its his mistake. and no one cares if he was 3495hours awake before. if he tells NO ONE. he deserves the w.o. and yeah it will hurt. sooner or later. "Oh ret didnt show up so i can do it 2 this time" and it goes on and gets "bigger" and bigger and no one will cares about rules~ very sad to tell u that there are rules and everyone has 2 follow them. no matter if he won wcg 30 times or whatever~ |
| he had alot of time to think about this match , and he ofc knew it was 3am the time of match so why didn't try play it before the date or postpone? but ye admins should threat him like others , and give him second chance as they have given to others during the ESL |
| I'm out of the debate, you can stop trying to argue with me. My point stands, your point stands. I hope admins will reverse their (imo very ignorant) decision. |
| why ignorant? if he would have told someone iam pretty sure they would let him play it earlier or later but he told no one just didnt show up and for that he doesnt deserve a regame. that is not my point or whatever its the god damn rule get it. |
| #11 did he tell u that?? maybe he is ur friend and we didnt know it |
| Well personally i think rules should be followed no matter if a player is good or bad. History shows us that isn't so. Imo thats because exceptions are made almost like every tournament that every one this its not a big deal if they dont show up for whatever reason since they're gonna get a PP anyway. Ok we can all understand we're not progamers and we cant be avaliable 24/7 since most of us still have personal lifes. But if ret knew he wouldn't be able to play at that time he could of inform the admins before hand to reschedule the match. Its really annoying when u show up for an event, it doesnt really matter if its a clan war in div 6 or a high class tournament, its really annoying when u show up 10 mins early and then wait for another 30 mins just to find out that ur opponent didnt show and imo thats simply BM. Personally i dont really care what they do and it really doesnt matter what we discuss here on the forums finally the decision is up to the admins, but personally i think they should just make an example out of ret so in the future this wouldnt happen anymore. |
| it should be a w/o, anything else would be unfair! |
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