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GosuGamer acts against TSL abusers

No less than 15 players were caught and disqualified for abuse in the TSL ladder stage. Some of these were big, respected and known names. This is unacceptable, and GosuGamers bans them all for six months from all our events and rankings.



The first one to get caught was F91. When accused he admitted and the whole ordeal was handled well by his team Duskbin who immediately went out with an official apology through their manager, Ash.

After the ladder stage finished and TSL admins started to sort through the players' game lists, more names were soon discovered. Considering the high level names of these players this might be the biggest cheating scandal in foreign Brood War.

Caught Cheaters
PlayerTSL "Rank"
United States Yosh 5th*
Ukraine Dimaga 9th
Russia Advocate 17th*
Ukraine Fraer 19th
Brazil Reason 20th
United States Mercury 27th*
Russia Pomi 35th*
France Sarens 35th
Poland RiboRibo 43rd*
Ukraine Vasilisk 46th
Peru aQp_JuanJo_O 50th
Peru aQp_JuaChi 76th
Ukraine HappyZerg 88th
China F91 N/A**
United States Scan N/A**

There are far too many trusted and respected players on this list. Players like, for example, Yosh and Advocate were always believed to be above this. Yosh used to give lectures at the StarCraft classes of UC Berkely, now he is caught for cheating. For what? Almost all the players caught had the skill to take a top 48 placement with no sweat at all, and that is what makes all this so hard to understand. The most ironic one of them all is probably aQp_JuanJo_O, who if he had just played it straight would probably have ended up among the top 48 thanks to all the other cheaters. It is fascinating to see how many players were willing to break the rules with so little gain, just because they believed they would not be caught.

However, TL.net staff has done a tremendously good job searching through matchlists and trying to find out cheaters. GosuGamers applaudes this work, and trust in TL.net's good judgement. Therefore each and everyone of the caught cheaters above are banned for six months as none of them have been caught before (Vasilisk was caught in the ICCup purge, but that list was not deemed trustworthy enough). They have not map hacked, therefore they do not face the normal one year ban, but they have actively cheated in a $20,000 tournament which cannot go unpunished. If they are caught for any form of abuse in the future they will be facing life bans.

Some people will think this is too harsh, some will think it is too lenient. But this is the decision GosuGamers staff has come to.


GosuGamers has also decided to release TT1 from his ban. He has stayed clean for a long time and will now be allowed to play and take part in GosuGamers events and rankings again.


*These ranks are calculated from the ladder score their accounts had at the end of the season, counting against this list (including its cheaters).

**Ending score not available


Links
TeamLiquid.net - TSL Official Forums
TeamLiquid.net - TL.net Announcement
 

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#1 LML (Division Leader SC) 2 years ago
so sad ;/ cheaters need to be punished.
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#2 7eveN.SauruS Denied comment. 2 years ago
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#3 oKiNeK 2 years ago
yosh,A2,dimaga and sarens :(
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#4 dacore 2 years ago
pathetic
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#5 OminouS 2 years ago
This is a sad event in BW history.
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#6 GerKonsumJunky 2 years ago
Absolut correct decision!
...but also sad for the whole community :[
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#7 Gosuhaube 2 years ago
Hmm I thought there might be a statement of the players that were "caught". Why did none of them say anything about it, or why was none of them interviewed?
We do not know enough about the "fake account" thing and i still cannot believe Advokate dimaga and Yosh can have done such a shit. I mean: Is it REALLY PROVEN that they know they were playing fake accounts? What Acctually happend in these games? Do anyone REALLY know that, and more important again: Did the players know that this were fakes?

And please don't shout anything in here if you are not 100% sure and know what happened exactly (and not from a 3rd person or stuff)!

In case they knew: Right and good decision Gosugamers!
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#8 darkdoom 2 years ago
"F91", "Dimaga", aQp_JuaChi, aQp_JuanJo_O,Reason

a real shame, GosuGamer should be more strict with these scourges

greeting the real pro games ,them if they know what is honor

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#9 AiCnexitO.o 2 years ago
if JuanJo is gosu why banned? ='(
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#10 Lord_of_Chaos 2 years ago
#7,
Dimaga:
TSL-DIMAGA
Park[fou] transferred to lopl. After the transfer, lopl played two games (0-2) against TSL-DIMAGA. Games played on Park[fou] match the IP address for TSL-DIMAGA. Thus, the rank and stats on lopl were achieved by TSL-DIMAGA.

Yosh:
TSL-Yosh
yhnujmik transferred to poiuytrewqz. Immediately after the transfer, poiuytrewqz played two games (0-2) against TSL-Yosh. The games played from yhnujmik match the IP address for tsl-yosh. Thus, the rank and stats transferred to poiuytrewqz were achieved by tsl-yosh. Also, tsl-yosh used yhnujmik to play many games against TSL players without risking his tsl-yosh account.

A2:
Advokate[TSL]
keelyoung transferred to jjlasdiaajak. Immediately after the transfer, jjlasdiaajak played three games (0-3) against Advokate[TSL]. The games played from keelyoung match the IP address for Advokate[TSL]. Thus, the rank and stats transferred from keelyoung to jjlasdiaajak were achieved by Advokate[TSL].


From TSL Forums.


As far as I know none of the players have made any public statements about it, apart from F91 through Ash. They have had plenty of time.
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#11 ostojiy 2 years ago
#7 it is proven. If they had not done it, there would have been a huge debate over it by now.
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#12 NiGoL(AoV) 2 years ago
Shit this is huge... I feel really sad really.. Some of them is my friends and i never thought they would do this :/ Just sad days for BW, but they need to be punished for it.
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#13 MeYera 2 years ago
Ridiculous punishment..
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#14 reaver- 2 years ago
sad... seying those gamers who has a really good skills
anyways gg for them ^^;
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#15 cybog 2 years ago
4x rox WOW
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#16 080485 2 years ago
Gj both gosugamers and tl.net <3
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#17 moRvh 2 years ago
half of RoX is on this list... so lol .... reminds me when localhost was caught hacking.


btw. reason made a statement on tl.net. dimaga "as well", just said a few words, seemed like he didnt care at all
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#18 Get.AntiQue 2 years ago
Yes, plz kick all the good players so i can be Top1 Bw
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#19 NiGoL(AoV) 2 years ago
AntiQue lol, where is ur brother btw? :D
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#20 ETBrooD 2 years ago
"If they are caught for any form of abuse in the future they will be facing life bans."

Good decision, consistent punishment is the only way to get rid of cheaters! Don't let them get away with anything!
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#21 eX-v1o)MorroW 2 years ago
about the ggnet rankings

when r u going to fix it?

all players either got a huge leap or loss out of nothing, take fenix match list for example. +100 for beating ultraling :p


great decision on the punishment, its good ggnet shows that cheating is unacceptable

(during 6 months will these gamers not get any +pts or -pts cause of wins/loss in cws etc or whats with that?)
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#22 MILOSH 2 years ago
lol to hard omg
they are not allowed to play tsl is enough...
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#23 Lord_of_Chaos 2 years ago
#21, it will all be dealt with as soon as the gosubet/database team gets on it.
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#24 NiGoL(AoV) 2 years ago
i agree with MorroW I've seen like HUGE points + in certain matchlists, those cant be right ...
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#25 LML (Division Leader SC) 2 years ago
1. There have been several threads about this, and as we've said, it is going to be fixed, in the near future, everything will be correctly re-calculated, so don't worry.
2. This isn't the place for that, so please stick on topic.
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#26 c1os3d 2 years ago
Dont get why ppls still cheat..
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#27 NiGoL(AoV) 2 years ago
#25 you make me horny, u always have answers to everything :)
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#28 okyo 2 years ago
they broke the rules of the tourney, not hacked,
don't think they should be banned from rankings and stuff for something like that, that isn't cheating in starcraft, that's cheating in TSL.
Weird move from GG.net imo.
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#29 LRM)SpaNiarD (Junior GosuBet Manager SC2) 2 years ago
agree with #4

By the way... why 6 months? In PGT, iCCup or WGT, cheaters used to be banned for life in the most of the cases, why are not going to be banned this time? Is just because this are "skillled" cheaters? Cuz they play for good teams?
I dont really care cuz that is not related to me in any way and if they are not going to cheat again them its everything ok, but i think you guys are getting weak with this movement, cuz is not a heavy punishment

btw, i dont want to attack those cheaters, cuz away from the cheats they are really good players :)
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#30 TheAnarchy 2 years ago
pfff bullshit
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#31 NiGoL(AoV) 2 years ago
don't even go there folks.
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#32 Pidgin 2 years ago
Those players didnt hack, they just played their own accounts to get a litte point boost at TLS.

It`s cheating, yes! ... but they shouldnt get the same punishment like a hacker. Correct decision from ggnet.
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#33 ToT)KaiSeR( 2 years ago
it is only 2nd biggest cheating scandal, and it always happends in such prized tournament, probably even happend to TSL season 1 without getting caught
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#34 NiGoL(AoV) 2 years ago
#33 you are so RIGHT!
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#35 JiYan (GosuBet Manager SC (inactive)) 2 years ago
grats tt1, youre free :DDDDDDDDDDDD
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#36 TuFFeR 2 years ago
Vasilisk...
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#37 rainbowstairway 2 years ago
i cant understand why advokate used hack and dimaga too

what they say about this ?

if really advokate used hack, i think he and the rest of the hackers dont want to play sc more time... :/ because he has higher level... remember he toke a win from jaedong XD
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#38 ETBrooD 2 years ago
#37
Jaedong never loses. He only gives freewins.
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#39 rainbowstairway 2 years ago
i cant understand why advokate used hack and dimaga too

what they say about this ?

if really advokate used hack, i think he and the rest of the hackers dont want to play sc more time... :/ because he has higher level... remember he toke a win from jaedong XD
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#40 rainbowstairway 2 years ago
i cant understand why advokate used hack and dimaga too

what they say about this ?

if really advokate used hack, i think he and the rest of the hackers dont want to play sc more time... :/ because he has higher level... remember he toke a win from jaedong XD
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#41 NiGoL(AoV) 2 years ago
#37 they did NOT hack., they cheated. They ABUSED the ladder. Nothing else.
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#42 rainbowstairway 2 years ago
#41 ok that was, sorry; my english is not good ( i confuse words ) and i will not re-write the posts XD but it's the "same" problem...
#43 supernerdhanko 2 years ago
how do you cheat in multiplayer? is it possible? i thought you can only do it in single player?
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#44 AbY 2 years ago
whats that??
all MAPHACKERS from wgtour/bwcl etc were unbanned after 6 or 1 years.. (huge mistake i think!!), all disc hackers from iccup are even not banned!!! and you ban so good players for 6 month for getting 260 free points? ....

they cheated ok, people must know about that because this should never happen more but i cant understand why are you so strict when i can see "robertito" (ex lrm)executor, 3 or 4 years maphacker, not banned from your ranking!!) shame!!

I could easly agree with this new, JUST if you can be as strict as this for all scandal who happened..

and this :"this might be the biggest cheating scandal in foreign Brood War", omg, do you forget the real biggest scandal when was reveled the "souspicious action" about all map hackers? all the tournaments or clan league won by team like lrm) or others with one or 2 and even 3 hackers in the same cw?(real hackers!, not cheating 2 games in their life).
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#45 MaTTeX 2 years ago
#44 260 points is a lot. Its the difference between being in Q3 or Q2. And they did it in one of the largest tournaments ever with a huge price pool. Not to mention they never apologized or made a statement.
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#46 MaTTeX 2 years ago
#28 Ofcourse that isnt cheating in starcraft since TSL is a FIFA tournament.
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#47 telecom 2 years ago
good to see ggnet wont tolerate ;P
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#48 Observer 2 years ago
Congratulations on detecting this abuse, i though it were absolutely ridiculous actions by TL.net, but after checking the reasons of disqualify for those players... This is just so unbelievable ...

How ever this players did a minor rule break... they just thought they wouldn't get caught as they did.

I would give them a second chance, just because taking such great players from the tournament will reduce the fun of the TSL ...

I would only warn this players and give a ladder penalty like the double of points they earned by doing the abuse.

THEY WON'T DO IT AGAIN ..... I CAN TRUST IT ;;;

Now with all this such great players disqualified, we already know who is going to win the TSL isn't it ??? so no fun at all ;;;;

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#49 Cyrox 2 years ago
It just blows my mind why some of the top48 would abuse the system like this. If they couldnt qualify from their group from the harder qualifications by beating one more player how could they hope to get all the way through to the money ?
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#50 AbY 2 years ago
#45 i understand and i agree (about its a huge tournament with a lot of cach prize, this is kind of "stealing money" but they didnt have any chance to apologize.. and i still cant belive that real cheater (i mean, hackers) are tolerated and unbanned after a few months and not them.
 

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