TSL2: Ladder Standings
Posted by Simon "Go0g3n" 7 months ago

Last playday of TSL Ladder Stage began with a bang, in fact 6 of them. But we'll look into abuser's list later on, the time has come for a final review:
We start with IdrA. He's been the king of the ladder for almost every single day with the exception of 1-2, he was the first to hit A and A+. Overall he clearly is one of the safest bets to advance very far or even win the thing.
If you check IdrA's match list you will find that he has beating quite a few strong TSL players, among them: recent 3-0 over his WCG Nemesis Kolll, 3-0 over Squall, older victories against OctZerg and a 5-0 with White-Ra.
Next comes our dear friend MorroW, sadly, now without the 18px capital bold letters. He's been holding second for awhile now, his record includes wins against iNcontroL, Gosudark, White-Ra, Predator and many others. We genuinely expect MorroW to advance far into the tournament, hoping for good games.
Strelok has been in top 5 for a very long time, didn't play much. White-Ra was literally bouncing all the way through ladder. At one point he was #1, then dropped back in mid 20s, for a day or so he even lost his A- status. Eventually he remembered that he in fact is probably the best foreign StarCraft Protoss and quickly climbed back into top 5. Much like Ret, IdrA and a few other players Ra was playing a whole lot of games versus Koreans, about 50% win ratio for the Ukrainian master.
Ret is 6th, another awesome bet for a win. He's been playing Koreans like crazy, preparing for next Courage. He actually beat IdrA in an epic match. Regular watchers of Ret's stream had the opportunity to observe that game live. He also player a nice 9-game series with Sen, lost 6 of them. All in all his win ratio against A-ranked Koreans is as impressive as it gets, really.
MaNa and Terran steadily stayed on their leading positions all the way through ladder. MaNa did drop back a bit, but quickly recovered back on 5th.
Positions of Sziky and Fenix are also no surprise to anyone. Fenix had a bit of a bounce, but he is pretty much where he should be. There is nothing too exciting in their match lists, so we'll walk by quickly.
I would look at kogeT's match list if iCCup site wasn't a lagging piece of you know what, but, since it is, all i can do is state that he is 141h, joined by his teammate Casper at 14th.
The rest of top 30 there's no much to say about. iNcontroL has been hanging around late 20s for a week or so, Castro was a regular in top 10, settled on 28th with quite a bunch of games played. KenZy, Fluffy and Fraer are no strangers to top 30 either, a few hit'n'miss games between the three, but steady positioning as it is.
Kr by the looks of his game count was working his ass off to get into top 30, a solid effort indeed. Infernal butter-sliced their way into A's with impressive records.
Killer is one player we haven't been paying much attention lately. By popular request via comments and forum we shall do so now. He's been around mid 20s for a week or so. He did play a lot of Koreans, but his winning ratio is quite frankly abysmal, certainly not comparable to the one of top players, which is probably why he was never there.
Kolll settled on 29th. He did play a lot of Koreans, also played a number of games versus top TSL participants, nothing too impressive, just a good solid bet on advancing far into the tournament.
The familiar American pack featuring Kawaii and Nyoken is still there, 36th-37th, no news here. Their fellow countryman G5, once a top 10-er, is on 49th, tough break, but if anybody from the current top 48 gets booked for hacking he will be in.
Cloud, the WCG finalist from Italy is stationed on 34th place. Speaking about WCG finalists, Yayba and Paranoid are nowhere, Sen got his act together and went back up to 10th, we expect a lot of great games from Sen.
Bulgarian Technics, once the holder of a very impressive record couldn't keep it up, 45th trailing Ghosta. Squall, Praetor and Kwark, all of them at one point had more or less comfortable places in top 48, - all dropped out.
OctZerg found some sort of skill/luck mojo and managed on the very last day to get back on 26th place, just hours ago he was 52nd.
Sweden isn't really performing as well as expected, only got 3 players inside top 48 with Naugrim, Enivid, Daze, Shauni and others out indefinitely.
As you can see 11 players have been caught abusing the ladder and have been disqualified, here are the morons: A2, Pomi, F91, Yosh, Scan, Ribobo, Mercury, Dimaga, Vasilisk, Sarens, Reason. All of them for taking wins off spoof accounts and/or playing other TSL participants with spoof accounts. Teamliquid are still checking the ladder for more possible abuse, there's no doubt there will be more.
I would like to raise a question, are they actually that dumb? Getting a few wins if you are a borderline B+/A- player to give yourself a small edge can be understood, if not condoned. Giving yourself several free wins if you've been in top 15 for days i can't get my head around.
One thing for sure, IdrA will be playing a bo5 versus Nony, other 47 will take a chances at the first round of playoffs.
That concludes our TSL ladder reports. We'll do an update whenever match-ups are released or if any more abusers get caught.
| Links |
| iCCup TSL - Rankings |
| Is Naugrim gonna play anymore or is he done? i was hoping to see him in TSL this time =/ |
| it's DaZe right there, on the 67th ;o the real ToT)DaZe( ? o,oa' |
| It's him. |
| Very nice report :) If you haven't done it yet, you should really check out the TL thread on the ladder standings here, as it has a lot of discussion on all the players and their rankings. One important thing that occurred while you were probably writing this is that Advokate/A2 and Pomi have both been disqualified for ladder abuse (see here). Also, some of the more interesting things that happened is Goody who was in the top 20 lost a few games in a row before resetting his account, meaning he is out for good. The same thing happened to RoX.Alf, which is unfortunate. I was looking forward to him in the TSL. He went from A 9950 rating to B+ before resetting his account. The ladder really is exciting at the moment! EDIT: Also, another exciting thing that happened in the ladder today was Sen vs Kolll. They went 3-3 after the first six games, costing both players 30 points, before Sen won three games in a row to make it 6-3. |
| lol go kawaii... |
| I'm very disappointed in the number of abuses. MorroW proves that with just enough skill you can reach the top without abusing, so why do top players like A2 and Pomi think they don't have what it takes? That's so sad. They should be ashamed for not having enough confidence in themselves. I mean, MorroW has picked his opponents, matchups and even maps carefully and I don't think a true winner would do that but it works SO well for him. How come other players would rather abuse than narrow down the field? It makes absolutely no sense to me. Nice to see fellow player Gamtja up there, I hope so much that he survives the last couple hours and qualifies :) |
| fluffy<3 |
| kawaii + mrow :3 truu luvluv |
| Seriously? first F91 and now Advokate? lol.... both of them are among the very best players in the entire TSL. There's absolutely no fucking need for A2 to abuse... WHY? |
| nice article, some players as morrow dont deserve a high position, there are a bunch of players which evade koreans. maybe they can have good result in the ladder, but i think that they won´t go further in the tournament, there is where the real skill will be showed. it is a shame that some players tried to cheat. it good to see that they were disqualified |
| shit a2 Dqed that sucks but im very glad with Kr hope this will be enuff pts to advance |
| Go swedes damn it! |
| So ret still streams some games from the eSTRO house? I wish i got to see that game :( |
| A2 :( |
| who is TSL-durrr ???? aka ? |
| i am pretty sure A2 did this cause he couldnt find a game to do.... fucking +260 pts out of 10 k that he did himself ..... very sad.... he was qualifying for sure without those 260 pts ................ |
| i think that Advokate shouldn't be kicked since we all know how skilled he is but if you admins want to kill this competition by adding all the dodgers and eliminate all the skilled players, it's your choice |
| durrr = Tom Dwan, one of the best american Cash Game poker pro. ^^ |
| #17 wow, stupidest thing i have ever heard. His skill has nothing to do with it, abuse is still abuse no matter how good you are. |
| #18 gg |
| Mistrzzz nooooooooooo. Congrats Sen, Kolll, Cloud. |
| reason owning this shit |
| IN MTACHLIST OF tsl-MORROW he never play vs koreans why? |
| gogogo ret |
| 1facEXPO WUUUUUT |
| #19 that`s stupid?How about dodging koreeans and picking every MU in order to stick to the top although your skill is NOTHING compared to that of those who deserve to be on top?...heh?...ok,A2 deserved to be brought down,he abused...but others should be kicked from the ladder too |
| #27 Plying lower ranked players isn't an abuse, except for the final 3 days of the tour as stated in the rules. He only got a total of 110 points of those games vs. D/C, so nothing to brag about here. |
| woohoo Marwin made top40 in 6 days |
| gogo hayder!~ |
| who is nony |
| CASPER is the most entertening player out there |
| Wooooow, Gamtja made it! MAAAAAAAAARTIN FTW GOGOGO :DDD |
| #28 he got those small points due to the big difference between his rank and those d/c ranks ... the ideea itself is to be blaimed...w/e,i thought that fair-play is something we all need to consider yet you,one of the notsogosucrew members are finding different excuses for those who "cheated" and dodged their way up to high ranks now occupying a place they dont deserve while others were thrown out(maybe they deserved it...maybe they didn`t)...have you ever considered that maybe the rules of the league itself are badly made?...maybe that last 3 days rule should of had an permanent character,during the entire tournament,then we wouldn`t of seen so much dodging from promorrow.gg |
| Where can I watch Ret s stream ? |
| #35 here is link to rep http://www.teamliquid.net/replay/upload/0034%20TSLretZ%20TSLIdrAT.rep here is link to ret chanel http://www.teamliquid.net/video/userstream.php?user=ret if you want to watch that game press "on demand" then pick december and then the last video .At 58.50min its starts ret vs idra they chat on msn then play game or download vod http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VBVEV316 |
| rly 10x man : ) |
| #34, perhaps in a $20k tournament run non-profit for the love of the game, peoeple should just show some respect and stick to the rules instead? Dodging and cheating is not the same thing. Cheating is breaking the rules set up by administration, dodging is a smart strategy to get a good place for the playoffs. And who is giving you the right to insult and attack gg.net crew members who put in hours and hours of work, for no payment, for this community? |
| WOW YOSH?! a part of me died inside |
| - |
| I just loved ret talkin in the phone after the game with idra and said i just won idra and now hes flamming me,such a nice guy Go ret |
| #38 where`s the insult?...considering how many insulting "news" you posted here(like the one where ret called praetor a gipsy)...and many others,which are anything but objective news now you`re offended for a game of letters(notsogosucrew)?And as i said before,fairplay is something you ALL should consider...but i`m guessing that you can`t let aside the PRIZE MONEY(OMGOD FREE CASH!!!!) and have a little more interest in the sportmanship of the game and of the players at the same time...but that`s just my 2 cents |
| Dimaga, Reason, Sarens... OUT |
| and vasilisk |
| yea, well who cares about cheater like him.. but Yosh, A2, Dimaga who are undoubtly tournament-proven top15 foreigners T_T |
| Dimaga and Sarens, wtf? I don't understand anything anymore. If this keeps up I would have been able to qualify in TSL just being a legit B- noob oO Dimaga is such a good player, yosh and Advokate aswell, why would they risk so much for 2-3 extra wins? :S |
| 181 pts away from taking #1 the last hour before 4:00 cet while idra was sleeping, damn so close xD |
| GJ abusers, i bet it was worth it! |
| WTF Sarens and Dimaga??? What are they THINKING! What they're doing is worse than maphacking and account sharing in clanwars!!! Can't they see that?? I'm not so surprised about Reason though, he's not that good. |
| It's kind'of sad that clear favorites were abusing, but in certain cases understandable. A win in A's gets you +140, there are 5-10 players withing every 140 points margin, giving yourself 2-3 free wins automatically moves you up from any danger zone to about the middle of top 48. |
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