Advertisement
Search
Poll
Revised Options: NWL Bracket format? (384 votes)
| 4 (1v1) and 1(2v2) bo3 | (38%) | ||
| Winners/Korean (1v1)bo7 Winner Stays | (36%) | ||
| 5(1v1) and 1(2v2) bo3 with Ace bo1 | (17%) | ||
| 3(1v1) and 1(2v2) bo3 with Ace bo1 | (7%) | ||
ret about going to Korea, BlizzCon, CaStrO and ZvZ
ret: "The goal of course would be to make a Proleague appearance..."
- I switched because I am currently trying to get to Korea to try to be a progamer, but I can't really say too much about it since nothing is certain yet, says ret to GosuGamers. He tells us one is only allowed to play one race in the Courage tournaments (tournaments you go through in order to get a progaming license).
- I also think it's better in general if you play only one race, adds ret.

ret playing Zerg at BlizzCon 2009.
It is quite usual to see foreign Zerg players switch to Terran when it comes to playing against other Zergs - what is the reason behind it?
- Well, I think it's because Zerg versus Zerg is very different from the other zerg matchups - and it's very fragile. For me it was just because playing Terran versus Zerg was a lot of fun back then, and I really hated Zerg versus Zerg, says ret.
What are the stuff in Zerg versus Zerg that's so difficult for you to get into? Timing?
- Yeah, it's just timing, making decisions how to spend your larvaes correctly. A wrong decision can change the outcome of the game in seconds. You really need a lot of experience I think. And I guess the mutalisk/scourge control is kind of difficult to master as well, explains ret.
When asking around on who the best foreign Zerg versus Zerg player is, many said Cristóbal "Dinot" Lledó. ret, who might be a freshie in the subject, agreed with the masses.
- He has shown great results in ZvZ lately so I guess it's him, he says.
Changing from a match-up you are used to to something completely different is hard. In ret's case, he says that his TvZ has lost skill since he started practicing with Zerg.
- I have lost some of my TvZ skill because I have been playing ZvZ. The situation isn't really optimal for me right now: I am not yet good enough in ZvZ to compete with the best Zerg players and my TvZ has lost a lot of skill because I'm not playing it all the time anymore, says ret.
- Difficult times for me if I run into Zerg players in foreign tournaments, states ret.
Last Saturday ret played against Jose "CaStrO" Castro in the 22nd ZOTAC Cup. A classic Terran versus Zerg best of five match, where ret only managed to win one game. The top-ranked Dutchman says that his results were partly due to his match-up training switch, but he also applauds CaStrO.
- He played pretty good against me, he says and wants to point out that the "pausing happening" had nothing to do with the results.
- It's really annoying, but oh well, it always happens when playing CaStrO. He paused twice in game two: once for five minutes and the second time for 15 minutes... sighs ret.
- And all that time I had to sit at my computer because he usually unpauses without asking the opponent if he's ready, he adds.
CaStrO's many pausings is supposed to be because of him working at an internet café. He needs to pause the game to take care of customers, understands GosuGamers.
Going to Korea - are your aims to enter a team, or do you intend just to go there and play in Courage? How big of a commitment are we talking about here?
- I would only go to Korea if I was accepted into a team. I have to give up at least a year of college for it so it wasn't an easy descision for me. And well, if I do go, I would fully dedicate myself to try the hardest as possible to get somewhere... And the goal of course would be to make a Proleague appearance. But I don't know if it's realistic. I am far away from having that kind of level right now, explains ret.
- But I would try my hardest and practise as much as possible, assures ret.

ret together with EffOrt and IdrA.
ret got a glimpse of what is to be expected in the progaming world in Korea at BlizzCon. And Jos did what many foreigners could only dream of - take a game off of Lee "NaDa" Yun Yeol.
- I still lost the series against Nada, so I was more dissapointed rather than happy about my one win, reveals ret.
What would you say was the highlight? You taking one game off of NaDa or defeating IdrA?
- Beating IdrA definately gave me a lot more satisfaction than taking the one game off Nada, says ret.
- I was really glad to beat IdrA because he had gotten the best of me in our recent ESL and other tournament encounters and it was about time I beat him in a series, adds ret.
However, the biggest highlight was meeting everyone:
- Artosis, Machine, Incontrol, IdrA, Skew, Tasteless, the SC2GG guys, a lot of people from TeamLiquid.net and random e-sports figures - everyone was super nice and I had a great time at BlizzCon, says ret and adds...
- Even though I got a little too wasted one night, he smiles.
- Watching EffOrt play live was definitely cool as well, that was some impressive stuff, adds ret.
Jos "ret" de Kroon is on many people's lips right now. Observing his games through the popular Livestream.com service, people noticed he stopped playing Terran versus Zerg to instead go for a mirror match. ret revealed in the GosuGamers forums that his switch was because he had put up a goal: Korea.
- I switched because I am currently trying to get to Korea to try to be a progamer, but I can't really say too much about it since nothing is certain yet, says ret to GosuGamers. He tells us one is only allowed to play one race in the Courage tournaments (tournaments you go through in order to get a progaming license).
- I also think it's better in general if you play only one race, adds ret.

ret playing Zerg at BlizzCon 2009.
It is quite usual to see foreign Zerg players switch to Terran when it comes to playing against other Zergs - what is the reason behind it?
- Well, I think it's because Zerg versus Zerg is very different from the other zerg matchups - and it's very fragile. For me it was just because playing Terran versus Zerg was a lot of fun back then, and I really hated Zerg versus Zerg, says ret.
What are the stuff in Zerg versus Zerg that's so difficult for you to get into? Timing?
- Yeah, it's just timing, making decisions how to spend your larvaes correctly. A wrong decision can change the outcome of the game in seconds. You really need a lot of experience I think. And I guess the mutalisk/scourge control is kind of difficult to master as well, explains ret.
“
If I do go, I would fully dedicate myself to try the hardest as possible to get somewhere...”- He has shown great results in ZvZ lately so I guess it's him, he says.
Changing from a match-up you are used to to something completely different is hard. In ret's case, he says that his TvZ has lost skill since he started practicing with Zerg.
- I have lost some of my TvZ skill because I have been playing ZvZ. The situation isn't really optimal for me right now: I am not yet good enough in ZvZ to compete with the best Zerg players and my TvZ has lost a lot of skill because I'm not playing it all the time anymore, says ret.
- Difficult times for me if I run into Zerg players in foreign tournaments, states ret.
Last Saturday ret played against Jose "CaStrO" Castro in the 22nd ZOTAC Cup. A classic Terran versus Zerg best of five match, where ret only managed to win one game. The top-ranked Dutchman says that his results were partly due to his match-up training switch, but he also applauds CaStrO.- He played pretty good against me, he says and wants to point out that the "pausing happening" had nothing to do with the results.
- It's really annoying, but oh well, it always happens when playing CaStrO. He paused twice in game two: once for five minutes and the second time for 15 minutes... sighs ret.
- And all that time I had to sit at my computer because he usually unpauses without asking the opponent if he's ready, he adds.
CaStrO's many pausings is supposed to be because of him working at an internet café. He needs to pause the game to take care of customers, understands GosuGamers.
Going to Korea - are your aims to enter a team, or do you intend just to go there and play in Courage? How big of a commitment are we talking about here?
- I would only go to Korea if I was accepted into a team. I have to give up at least a year of college for it so it wasn't an easy descision for me. And well, if I do go, I would fully dedicate myself to try the hardest as possible to get somewhere... And the goal of course would be to make a Proleague appearance. But I don't know if it's realistic. I am far away from having that kind of level right now, explains ret.
- But I would try my hardest and practise as much as possible, assures ret.

ret together with EffOrt and IdrA.
ret got a glimpse of what is to be expected in the progaming world in Korea at BlizzCon. And Jos did what many foreigners could only dream of - take a game off of Lee "NaDa" Yun Yeol.
- I still lost the series against Nada, so I was more dissapointed rather than happy about my one win, reveals ret.
What would you say was the highlight? You taking one game off of NaDa or defeating IdrA?
- Beating IdrA definately gave me a lot more satisfaction than taking the one game off Nada, says ret.
- I was really glad to beat IdrA because he had gotten the best of me in our recent ESL and other tournament encounters and it was about time I beat him in a series, adds ret.
However, the biggest highlight was meeting everyone:
- Artosis, Machine, Incontrol, IdrA, Skew, Tasteless, the SC2GG guys, a lot of people from TeamLiquid.net and random e-sports figures - everyone was super nice and I had a great time at BlizzCon, says ret and adds...
- Even though I got a little too wasted one night, he smiles.
- Watching EffOrt play live was definitely cool as well, that was some impressive stuff, adds ret.
Information
| Posted by: | Patrik "Raistlin" Hellstrand | |
| Date: | 4 months ago (Updated: 4 months ago) | |
| Comments: | 52 | |
| Comments \ Paging |
1, 2
|
| title is misleading.. good news tho. |
| What's misleading about it? |
| "ret: Goal is to make a Proleague appearance " sorta sounds like he's already got his trip to korea sorted and he's looking forward to his first main goal, rather than "The goal of course would be to make a Proleague appearance...", the subtitle, as that's kinda clear that he's saying "if I go to korea, my goal would be to make a proleague appearence. |
| I have been wondering for a long time how ret and korea would work out. He seems to be one level ahead of all foreigners. It's going to be very interesting to see how good he would do after a few months in a progamer house. I wonder what team will pick him up. I can't see any reason any team wouldn't, seeing as ret's definitely progamer material, being on par with idra even though he has limited amount of time for practice and don't have the advantage of practicing with korean pros. |
| go ret^^ |
| "- Even though I got a little too wasted one night, he smiles." ahwhw niceee ;D!! |
| Well, the more "foreign" players we have in Korea the better and ret is definitely one of those who I'll always cheer for. |
| I can only see him ending up like idra. The chances of him doing something is miniscule. Too many koreans and only 1 ret. Best of luck though. |
| I don't think his mechanics are good enough for Korea to be honest. Strategic play can only take him so far and I fear korean Terrans will own him hard. |
| GO RET GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| why don't u quote him instead of writing this "adds ret says ret sighs rep adds ret explains ret" etc pp... don't want to criticize but imo it's shitty to read this mix of quotation and indirect speech. |
| nice article gogo ret |
| very good news, i would like to see Ret achieving something in korea, even if he appears just 1 time in proleague it would be awesome. |
| I wish ret all the best. A bit off topic, Castro should really not play tours if he dont have the spare time to do it on. I understand he wanna win the money but 15 mins? Thats unacceptable. |
| agreed #11 |
| why didn't ret unpause? it's more bm to make someone wait then to unpause after you waited more then 2 min |
| lol...effort playing toss :D |
| Really gm by ret waiting 15m :d Gl Ret |
| 11 lol u have no idea what is a good article right? :D Nice write up, best of luck for u ret |
| I didnt know progammers werent aloowed to play more than one race. I remember sAviOr once played terran against Gorush in an OSL game |
| #20 read the article once more. pay extra attention to actually comprehend what you are reading, and you will get your answer. |
| I thought ret got accepted by a team when I head header. GL to ret though. I bet he will own Idra easily after 3 months of training in Korea. |
| Great interview :) |
| go ret go !!!! i think that he really have chances to be a succesfull progamer in korea ;] |
| Gogo Jos, you can make it ez !!! Good luck there :) |
| its easy for korea - switch Idra for ret |
| It can be done, so good luck - we need a European presence in Korea, and arguably a Zerg-player is the best kind of player to do the job ;P |
| Gogo jos you can do it!:) |
| Good luck if u going to korea , and then we got a european savior |
| Good luck ret |
| A risky step, especially cos SC 2 comes out in 2010. |
| "adds ret" "ret adds" WHAT IS HE ADDING TO? GODDDDDD |
| It is not risky, it is the best opportunity for him as sc2 comes soon :D Then its just for a period of time, its way better according to me ! Thats a good experience. |
| Its not to late to get progamer at BW? Shouldn't you try for SC2 instead ret? because starting as progamer now, is a bit late imo! But who knows? |
| he will never get his zvz at a decent lvl very soon its a waist of time and money |
| Korea is like the room of spirit and time in Dragon Ball Z. Staying 1 day there is like training 1 year anywhere else :D |
| #37 you are just WRONG |
| #37 rofl xD |
| bien di sparkles |
| #37 lol so true :D u made my day ^^ |
| - And all that time I had to sit at my computer because he usually unpauses without asking the opponent if he's ready, he adds. Right. Ret fighting!!! |
| glhf ret |
| informative news!!!!! really liked it! |
| Seriously, are there any rules regarding pausing games in thees tourneys? What would happen if ret just unpaus and goes on destroying him? Cred to ret for not blaming this, but imo this paus affect ret more then Castro. Non the less, gl ret! Zerg ftw!! |
| #37 LOL nice! |
| great interview? :) perhaps only the quotes of reT are good as long as there doesn't stand "he says" or "reT says" adjacent. I presume everyone is that smart that he understood that reT answered the questions. I agree totally if someone dissent with "Idra could jump between the conversation and was yelling >>fu u basterd i am the only koreanpro yo!<< #32 good point :D |
| Ah shame that he has to chance from terran vs zerg to a clean mirror match-up. The former is much more interesting. It seemed that ret was very highly regarded by many in the match-up, but I was never really impressed, although he had a vert effecient (and to me, annoying :D) use of siege tanks. Really looking forward to hearing about the Courage adventure. I must admit that I hope he loses, since I really like that fact that "random" Koreans are way above the foreigners in level, but since he brings something interesting to the foreigner scene, I cannot help but to root for him in a sense. I find it really funny that Castro is apparantly playing top-level Starcraft and servicing customers in a computer café at the same time :D |
| well done ret ... Now I like you; |
| the european july macdonalds zerg |
Advertisement
Latest news
14:44
Artosis on what to expect in the TSL quarter finals
12:36
Russia is taking the wrong turn, loss to Romania
03:43
A very exciting ending to the round of 16
03:42
TSL: VODs - CaStrO vs Ret, Mondragon vs BRAT_OK
01:38
iG wins their first match in divison 1
00:16
No more ZOTAC Cups for StarCraft players
14:45
BWAPI Replay Tool
09:12
TSL StarLeague RO16 Day 3
00:39
Artosis about Draco's retirement, TSL and Jaedong
20:25
TSL: White-Ra takes on TT1 in this week's first game











8
You are not a logged in, or you are not registered. Create an account or login to be able to post a comment.