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monsow
Leave DotA section alone. (2473 reads, 14 replies, 10 months ago)
Hi. Just because DotA2 is coming soon, and you guys know that it will destroy HoN, you don't have to go advertise for your game in the DotA section. No one who played DotA is ever going to switch to HoN when DotA 2 is coming, so LEAVE OUR FORUMS ALONE!
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10 months ago
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kaluro
Reported for excessive caps lock, off topic posting and threatenings.
Oh add provocation to that.

10 months ago
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monsow
Go cry me a river HoN fanboy, just accept the fact that DotA 2 is going to be 1000x times bigger than your loved game
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10 months ago
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Spook
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10 months ago
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c4P
wondering how u can be so damn sure about that since all folks have only seen 2 pics of heros... i share your thoughts tho dota 2 will coz hon's kiddy world

10 months ago
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JonhyBot
#3

Btw, are u guys on this degree of desperation already?

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/thread/790291-heroes-of-newerth-dota-discount

Maybe next news will be: buy 2 HoN accounts and we offer you +1 for free!
SomedayNatureWillMakeYouPay

10 months ago
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ephi
You know whats funnier than Dota 2 killing hon? League of legends players streams having 20k viewers while dota players can't even get 1k. Nobody plays dota anymore, dota 2 might be bigger than Hon, but it will be much smaller than LoL. Pendragon beats icefrog, mad dota fanboys?

10 months ago
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esG.Sava
#6
I think it's cuz they advertise it in their client or whatever it is.DotA has bigger community than LoL and HoN.And for that Pendragon > Icefrog its like sayin' Riot Games (???) > Valve ?The fuck is Riot Games and how can they be even compared.

10 months ago
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ne0lith
#6 Typical ignorant fanboy. Dota has a WAAAAAY bigger community in players than LoL, there are more players of Dota in China than there are of LoL in the whole world.

The fact with the streams is that in Dota casual pub players are actually a whole different breed of people than the ones who follow the competitive scene. They are spread over numerous platforms and they are oblivious of any tournaments whatsoever unless they decide to SEARCH for them.

On the other hand, whenever you log into Lol, there's a stream promoted right there, which the most casual player, who has never watched any tournament streams in any game ever, decides to click and "see how the pros play".

You could find pub players who've played Dota for years and don't know what Dreamhack is but almost everyone in LoL knows what it is because it's hard to fuc*ing miss the big announcement when u log in and not to click it

Dota streams from big tournaments have had 20-30k viewers, not to mention that there are usually more streams for the same tournament split across various locations, so you may add a whole bunch of asians who watch their own non-english casts for that. If you compare daily casts with less than 1k viewers to Dreamhack in LoL, you have a problem.

And the ultimate point is that no matter how many people watch LoL streams, the moment Dota2 comes out it's gonna be all what the tournaments care about. The prestige of the company is bigger(Valve >>> Riot), the capital is bigger and the game will be built having competitive matches in mind, not casual ones, like LoL.

So what are those people you keep talking about gonna watch if there will not be tournaments to stream? LoL will go back where it belongs, to the mass of casual games that will be forgotten as the time goes by. But it's funny everytime I see HoN players hating on Dota and using LoL streams as an example of why Dota is dying. Whatever happened to HoN?

10 months ago
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ephi
2011-07-24 02:52, ne0lith wrote:
#6 Typical ignorant fanboy. Dota has a WAAAAAY bigger community in players than LoL, there are more players of Dota in China than there are of LoL in the whole world.

The fact with the streams is that in Dota casual pub players are actually a whole different breed of people than the ones who follow the competitive scene. They are spread over numerous platforms and they are oblivious of any tournaments whatsoever unless they decide to SEARCH for them.

On the other hand, whenever you log into Lol, there's a stream promoted right there, which the most casual player, who has never watched any tournament streams in any game ever, decides to click and "see how the pros play".

You could find pub players who've played Dota for years and don't know what Dreamhack is but almost everyone in LoL knows what it is because it's hard to fuc*ing miss the big announcement when u log in and not to click it

Dota streams from big tournaments have had 20-30k viewers, not to mention that there are usually more streams for the same tournament split across various locations, so you may add a whole bunch of asians who watch their own non-english casts for that. If you compare daily casts with less than 1k viewers to Dreamhack in LoL, you have a problem.

And the ultimate point is that no matter how many people watch LoL streams, the moment Dota2 comes out it's gonna be all what the tournaments care about. The prestige of the company is bigger(Valve >>> Riot), the capital is bigger and the game will be built having competitive matches in mind, not casual ones, like LoL.

So what are those people you keep talking about gonna watch if there will not be tournaments to stream? LoL will go back where it belongs, to the mass of casual games that will be forgotten as the time goes by. But it's funny everytime I see HoN players hating on Dota and using LoL streams as an example of why Dota is dying. Whatever happened to HoN?


Im going by the facts, facts like Lol players streams being much more popular than Dota streams, facts like LoL beating the crap out of WC3 in xfire ratings.

What exactly am I a fanboy of? You fanboys fill your mouthes with "dota 2 will kill hon xDxDxD", yet you are afraid that LoL will take over the genre.

Those casual players you speak off will most likely not move to Dota 2. Most of those casual players are playing LoL already anyway, lots of smaller Dota servers have closed these last 2 years, even the one I started playing on is dead.

LoL streams for big tournaments have 160k viewers, lol'd at the "20k" dota pulls.

China is the only thing keeping Dota alive, and China won't move to Dota 2 as soon as they realize they have to spend money.

Just accept it, you guys are so happy about how "dota 2 will kill lol", just as happy as I am posting this and getting you all riled up.

The prestige of the company means shit when no Valve game can attract the ammount of viewers Lol has attracted. Not even SCII has managed to do so with such a profesionalized community, lol at you fanboys thinking Dota will be bigger than SCII.
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10 months ago
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ne0lith
Your only way of sustaining an argument is completely ignoring all my points and orgasming over those LoL numbers What part of: "If you add all the viewers of all the streams for the same big event in Dota you'd get more than that" don't you get?

Are you SERIOUSLY gonna leave out all the chinese/asian or even russian viewers out of the equation and ignore the fact that there are more english language streams too?

Imagine having Dota 2 embed their ONLY stream to a big tournament into their client so everyone watches at the same link, you'd probably realise how ignorant you are. If they'd also implement a stupid queue system like in LoL where you'd have to wait like 30 minutes for a game and the next most interesting thing would be to click that link while you're waiting to play, the numbers would explode

With 4 ASSUSES per year, OSPL, ESWC, SMM and WDC,new platforms coming out and lots of new shoutcasters appearing, Dota is not dying, while LoL is taking praise over a SINGLE tournament where Riot use their marketing tricks to make a game seem more popular than it actually is.
Fail from your part:"LoL streams for big tournaments have 160k viewers", you mean that ONE tournament, right? Why use the plural?

Casual people will stay in LoL for a while but they'll still be less in numbers than Dota players, just like it is now, ROFL. Anyways, we're talking about the competitive scene and that doesn't mean sh!t here, LoL won't find its place in big tournaments so nobody will care because Dota 2 WILL have those numbers you are so obsessed about to back up Valve's reputation. There will be a single platform and if they embed their streams there, LoL is toast.

So, there will be more viewers, if only half of the players in the world who play Dota will buy Dota 2, there will still be more players AND they will be backed by one of the biggest gaming companies in the world. I'm wondering who would choose LoL over Dota 2 for their tournament.

Also, another fail from you in this part:"Not even SCII has managed to do so with such a profesionalized community", check this out http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=161872.

700k+ viewers on GSL. If you count Dreamhack, there were streams with 85k+ viewers who were actually interested to view competitive SC2 matches and willingly informed themselves about the streams/dates of the event, not some guys who clicked some link out of curiosity cause it was embedded on BNet or because they had to wait on a queue to play. If you add the numbers on all those streams up, it doesn't look like more people were interested in LoL even at Dreamhack, the only tournament you use as an argument, using the plural for some reason.

10 months ago
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Akhlabad
please dota noobs and lol and hon and whatever shit there is , GO AWAY PLZ
masta spinnah...there is no pen

9 months ago
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chelom
in fact LOL is making his way to big tournaments. I mean LOL was in WGC and dota have never being in that tournament. I know its because that dota is not a really game but a mode. I mean Dota 2 will be bigger than any of those but LOL will continue to be really big, especially cause its free to play. And the runes and masteries system was a really good idea at least in my point of view. the only game that will certainly die its HON. Thats because u have to pay for play HON.

9 months ago
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unknowncreature
#9 Lol dont even have replay functionality... top dota replays have 60k 80k downloads from a SINGLE site(as gosugamers) while LoL players are forced to see all the games live or in vods... its still impresive the Lol live numbers but its mainly due to in game advertisements and the lack of replay functionality.

9 months ago
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-VigRouX-
This actually baits flames. But yeah, he got the "don't advertise in DotA Forum" part right. Anyway, *Locked*

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