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What is needed to compete with China ?

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#1 shreyuz

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 10:54 AM

After watching 15-20 matches there are a few indications as to whats needed to compete with chinese teams

a) Ban those mobile heroes : Chinese teams rely on mobility and positioning. Naga/Darkseer/Morph/AM/Bountyhunter/Prophet (left out tinker and SS). Most of these heroes need to be banned especially BH/Morph. EU players are just not as good as their chinese counterparts with these 2 heroes and cannot afford to give it to them.

B) Brood mother : For the love of God dont pick him. Chinese teams have perfected their defence against split pushes and their mobility driven gameplay simply kites BM like a child.

c) Enigma/Tidehunter : Both with killer ultimates. Both having long CD. Even if you win a battle with them, and if you cant take immediate advantage your opponents will respawn and seek a team battle asap.
You dont need to pick Tide or Enigma, but most importantly dont pick both int he same team !!

d) Play semi carry heroes. Chinese teams have better farmers. FACT ! So dont even try to beat them in their own game. They will simply swallow you.
Semi carries is the way to go. QoP, farming leshrac, Prophet, Lanaya, Storm, Puck, Balanar, CK is the way to go

e) Mix em up : Heroes with great potential and fit EU/NA gameplay like Krobelus, Undying, Warlock, Kunkka should be given a chance.

If you dont surprise the chinese or try and fight them at their own game you will lose 100%. So go out there, take the risk and pick different heroes and force them out of their comfort zone.
Give us some good matches.

GLHF
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#2 nxl

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 11:40 AM

pick pudge make their imba cordination and positiong destryoed by hooks = win... pudge>china
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#3 zel_028

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 11:50 AM

DAMN YOU ARE TOTALLY RIGHT THIS IS WHAT I HAD IN MIND MAN. WHERE IS THE KNOWN EU TEAM THAT IS SO AGGRESSIVE THAT BOX OUT CHINESE FARMING SAFE PLAY DOTA MAN..

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#4 zel_028

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 11:52 AM

think the only way to defeat them right now is cheese tactics like NaVi's dendi pudge. or any surprise picks against chinese
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#5 YoonJim

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 12:03 PM

NS > CHINA
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#6 langka

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 12:19 PM

i actually agree with #1.noticed pudge really fucks up chinese

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#7 ninja-wizard

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 12:21 PM

You need to get bitten by radioactive spiderman xD
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#8 brasi

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 12:35 PM

almost any game ive seen so far in which chinese played against other countries they simply predicted enemies lanes or outdrafted them.
i still expect more intense games when it comes to the playoffs. there has to be something in the backhand for every team. for example NaVi's smoke neutral farming in 2011 (fixed for gods sake) or jungling storm

btw, didnt see Undying so far in the games i watched :(
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#9 2012z

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 12:49 PM

lgd's teamplay is unbeatable.
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#10 daixn

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 01:06 PM

Their performance is so flawless, don't know what to say.

Same hero with same skill and same items choice, but why the difference in game can be this huge :S

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