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#1 langit7

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 04:45 AM

Is it allowed to ask player no. 6 to watch stream and give suggestion to other players in online tournament?

#2 maphack925

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 05:15 AM

This is how live stream matches can be exploit. The answer is obvious to your question. Any team is not allowed to watch stream while playing. By watching, the team will know if the support will roam to gank and they will know where wards are placed. But we can't tell with evidence if any team watch live stream while playing the game.

#3 LegoLas

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 05:44 AM

Of course its not allowed. There already has been numerous occasions like.
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 06:09 AM

Yeah, of course its illegal. The easiest way against this (while being as close to 'live') is several minutes of cast delay, but things like Wards and Hero Movement can still be somewhat given out.

As using a MH, there is still no definite way to ensure that the opponent team is not doing this (specially since these players already have a good sense of awareness by themselves). However, it is highly unethical and we'd rather give these Competing teams the respect and benefit of the doubt, rather than being skeptical.

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 06:39 AM

5 minutes delay

#6 Jeezus

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 08:51 AM

2012-08-11 07:44, LegoLas wrote:
Dude are you that dumb to not get that? Of course its not allowed. There already has been numerous occasions like.

a mod should be more polite

#7 maphack925

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 09:44 AM

^ +1 hahaha.

#8 maphack925

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 09:45 AM

6 mins delay would be good for wards placement :)

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 10:40 AM

well this is not about DOTA2 Livestream. Its about WC3 Dota.

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 12:11 PM

how do we know that players are using stream cheats?

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 01:32 PM

or maybe there should be a VOD / stream after the match is done


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Posted 11 August 2012 - 02:49 PM

well just a thought what if say for example they pause the game and make an excuse lets say lag/delay and they ask for some timeout while theyre pausing another man watching the stream tells the team everything like where wards are placed and where heroes are currently at just a thought

#13 ngazirrrrrrrrrrrrr

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 03:58 PM

Online we have clients. On LAN we have many spectators.

#14 LegoLas

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 05:14 PM

#5
Haha, I didn't mean to disrespect. But was just plain wall faced with that question. :P
One of my colleague edited that part out for u guys. Apologies. :)
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 05:19 PM

#5 *cough* yeah... dont worry i gave him a slap on the head for it ;) Even mods make mistakes sometimes ^^ its good u brought it to our attention though :)

#16 langit7

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 06:47 AM

I start this thread after read this artitcle (http://www.gosugamer...k-out-for-na-vi)

He also mentions the issue of teams having a coach sitting behind the players to see how the game is progessing.
- "It's actually very unfair because it would be like six versus five where someone's watching everything who is not in intense situations so that he can actaully watch what's going on and know what's really happening. It's really unfair when teams do that."[i]

if it's allowed than each team on stream should take benefit from stream

#17 maphack925

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 01:33 PM

It is illegal but any team can do it without getting caught.

#18 ngazirrrrrrrrrrrrr

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 04:41 PM

No the sixth players is watching his own players' screens not a stream.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 09:56 PM

#13 & 14
nice one...
;) good example!
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#20 maphack925

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 02:57 AM

Legolas was just stating a fact :) no offense hahaha.




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