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Mjollnir vs MKB dps?

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#1 holypepsi

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 05:02 PM

Mjollnir Price: 5400

Gives:
80 Attack Speed
24 Damage

Passive: Chain Lightning
- 25% chance to release a Chain Lightning on attack.
- Hits 8 units. 160 damage each. 500 bounce range.
- Orb effect.

Monkey King Bar

Price: 5400
Requires:
Demon Edge
2x Javelins

Gives:
88 Damage
15 Attack Speed
Passive: True Strike
Prevents your attacks from missing (except due to exceeding Movement Buffer Range on melee units). Interferes with some attack modifiers on ranged units.
Passive: Mini-Bash
35% chance to bash on attacks. 100 bonus damage. Stuns for 0.01 seconds.
Note: Clicking the item will toggle True Strike on and off.



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despite the its an orb, farming ability and active shield spell from Mjollnir, and true strike from mkb
(*include the chainlightning vs minibash of course)
which items deals more dps?
please discuss:
Mid game: As first major item of dps.

Late game: scales with other item like daelus.



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#2 dttsomh-EMI

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 06:37 PM

mkb best dps weapon in game with its truestrike....if u take that out...idk.... my overall ranking for a semicarry/hardcarry was something like
mkb>mjollnir>buriza(daedalus) (excluding rapier)
but then if you take those actives and orbs out.... Id say mjollnir is best dps item, mkb without truestrike is close to weak for its price just for the raw damage....its the truestrike that makes it up for its price.


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#3 holypepsi

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:00 PM

I always find a difficult choice between mjollnir and mkb.
theres no doubt for the choice of mkb when opponent has evasion.

and theres a difference between IAS and damage as IAS works well on mobile range heros doesnt for immobile/ melee heros.

heros like mirana,qop,furion, dk. after get basic survivability items i usually get dps items on them to scale the late game.

it would be nice if theres some convincing evidence about this..

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#4 Hamasaki_Fanz

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:00 PM

mjolnir is used when your hero need to deal chain lightning to get faster creep kill, such as naix. Naix has high base damage + maelstorm => high aspd + chain lighning.

MKB is used when you need pure damage and 'anti-miss' attack.
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#5 dttsomh-EMI

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:03 PM

are you guys serious, maybe go wash your face and open your eyes... he didnt asked for the circumstances you buy the items for, and why....he asked straight about DPS, not their active/pasive skillbounds. But please, continue to share your knowledge with us about which hero needs one item or another... and more nonsense please.
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#6 7_ShininGAngel

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:48 PM

I don't think it's that easy to calculate it, because mjollnir deals AoE damage aswell, I mean the lightning, and that depends on how many units it will hit.
Or if you are simply 1v1 rightclicking with someone.
1v1 rightclick should be easy to find out, just pick mirana or something with your friend aswell lvl 25, one goes mkb other one mjollnir and see who wins the rightclick fight.
But in teamfights mjollnir seems to do better than 1v1 ofc.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 08:08 PM

#5 You won't even find out it this way because both items have luck based damage...
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#8 dttsomh-EMI

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 08:17 PM

guys are you kidding me..... wow.... you are still arguing about their truestrike and chain lightning, you just can't read, or can't understand. No hope in this generation...
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#9 7_ShininGAngel

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 08:22 PM

2012-07-02 22:08, _M0T_ wrote:
#5 You won't even find out it this way because both items have luck based damage...


If you want to include luck into the equation there is no way to find it out anyway, because in a real game luck could always be against you.
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#10 PurgeGamer

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 08:22 PM

There's nothing to discuss about.
Mjollnir gives better DPS, that's a fact. It was calculated a long time ago on playdota forums.

There are certain situations obviously though where a hero has high resistance, then it's not as good.

But you shouldn't compare MKB against Mjollnir, because Mjollnir wins with no competition. What you should compare is Mjollnir to Buriza.
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