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[Crown1]

Is it just me or is the public matchmaking imbalanced?

When i play matchmaking i get every kind of players...from pros to newbies..everything, from people with 5 wins to people with 600 wins..

But recently, since the closed beta transformed in to open beta a lot of people joined dota 2 and in every game there are at least 2 players that have 0 15 3 score, and usualy are also in the same team. All my games are stomps. Either i win by a huge diference or i loose by one.
I understand that dota is not only for the experienced, and everyone was bad at the beginning but i think that Valve needs to sort this problem out...slowly the public matchmaking is transforming in to Garena.
Does anyone know if they have any plans on doing something about the public matchmaking?

[tain]

agreed... http://bi.gazeta.pl/.../z11041646Q.jpg

[Souone]

What I find really annoying is when i'm solo queuing and get like 3+2 or 4+1 stacks and my team is 1+1+1+1+1 or 1+1+1+2 (and it's pretty common). Even worse when it's serious mode stacks with invoker, lycan, Lesh/SD and shit like that against people randoming, this shit needs to be taken into consideration in the algorithm.

And regarding the OP, it really does seem lately that most games are stomps.

[adnfx2]

what a pussy...

[kissmeplz-_-]

Well I have the same problem people with 200+ wins and people with 30 wins in the same team meh...

[Crown1]

And it is not just about the wins, if they have that hero ranking method they shuold use it when they do matchmaking, for instance i have a friend that has not played dota 1 and he has 200+ wins in dota 2 but he is very very bad, but he will get to play with other people with 300-400 + games that have played maybe 4-5 years of dota 1, its not fair for them and neither for him.
The matchmaking system just sucks

[holypepsi]

number of wins doesnt count.
winrate counts
the current MMR works perfectly fine for me

check ur player stats ull find out most games every player has a similar winrate

[Souone]

#6 I don't see this at all. Wins don't matter, that is for sure, but they don't match by winrate.

Random example from my latest games: http://stats.dota2.be/match/22297634

And there are a lot more like this.

[COBHateCrew]

I agree PMM sucks..but I sometimes found out that players who have low wins is on a party with a high wins. And it turns out that the player with high wins is also noob. People tend to party with random pubbers and they think that they can own pubs with.

[Crush3d]

Keep whining

[ClockSheep]

you just forget the instances where you stomped your opponents who are 5% winrate people

[nakee]

I just played and i got matched up with people 2-5 wins and around 2 pages of matches played. I was supposed to be the balancing factor cause im the one with the higher win rate.









too bad i played wisp

[maphack925]

Because the only way to sort this out is thru statistics(win rate system). People just keep on whining . At least there is matchmakin

[Fr3akad3ll3]

if there is any kind of system behind the matching, it will for sure get better over time ...

and i agree, some games are pretty harsch rapes nowerdays, but that counts for like a third of my recent games ... usually the teams are fine un my oppinion.

but what #8 said is true, its a "problem" that long time dota players try to get their newbie freinds into the game, it has to happen, and it is fine, and it may cause some games to be not as enjoyable for the other people in there, but thats the only way the game will grow and get more successfull, so instead of flaming the people with low winrates you should give them tipps on how to improve in further games !

[Crown1]

#13 it is true:)...but u know the dota comunity yes? If a low skilled guy gets a 0-15 score he will not say sorry, what u think i should do ? Or when he is 0-5 to say guys i can't do this, can i change lanes? He will just blame hes teammates and say that it is not hes foult:), this is how the game goes.

And yes i am gratefull that there is a "public matchmaking"but it needs improvements, lots of them.

[Hamasaki_Fanz]

The old PMM's was like :
{
Your W>L : it'll team you up with noobs and lagger so you'll lose
Your L>W : It'll team you up with decent teammates
}


Now PMM's system is like :
{
I give you 5 straight matches with decent teammates
and then I give you 5 straight matches with noobs and lagger teammates
}

[long123]

my party ( party of 2 or 3 ) always match up with pros like loda, hyhy lgd... how to get high win rate lol.

You will need a super pro team mate + strong play + stupid player in their team to win them..

[venom_]

same, my games are like this: 1 game easy win, 1 game hard rape cause of terrible 1-2 teammates. As I read somewhere I guess mm system really tries to keep you at 50% winrate. A system of matching players at similar skill levels would be way way better.

[iirnited]

Anyone else had games where you were matched with 5 random guys and the opposing team was a 5 man (same team tag) team?

[askod]

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