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#1 Crown1

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 12:30 AM

Hi
I have been playing dota now for over 3 years and dota II for over 6 months and have been watching pro replays/live streams for about 3 years also.
I really want to improve my skill lvl somehow
I most of the time play pub games with my friends(not very high skill friends), we do ward and smoke gang and thinks like that but i really feel that from only this +watching top players play you kind of cap out on your skill gaining.
Any suggestions on what to do ?
And if anyone plays lots of decent to high lvl CM games (Europe or US East) and sometimes needs a stand in i would really love to play with you if you don't mind giving me a try. (just pm me your steam ids)
I do not want a team or semi-pro team, i would just like to have somehow accses to a bit more higher lvl games then the random pub games, to continue improving.
And if anyone has any other suggesions on how to keep improving please let me know.

Thanks

#2 Crush3d

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 12:52 AM

Play on servers you lag with. Once u get used to laggy servers like SEA/China/USW, try playing europe. You will stomp everyone. That's what I did to improve.

Challenging all the circumstances is the way to go..

#3 AnakAyam

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 01:04 AM

always, always, always play with a team of 5 players that you know, against another organised team of 5. it doesnt matter whether you're very skilled, but organised gameplay is the pinnacle of DotA and it is preferable to gain skills form there. Refrain from playing pubs alone with 9 other people who you are unlikely to work with because you are just wasting time, energy and your breath without learning anything.

#4 ngazirrrrrrrrrrrrr

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 02:53 AM

Moved to strat.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 04:13 AM

dont forget to enter some available In-house League..
and Join some Tier 2~4 tourney....



#6 ngazirrrrrrrrrrrrr

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 05:30 AM

The way I see it the only way to get better is to get better with your friends. When you already have friends then you can really go out and face people in clan war and in houses. Leagues are fun and all but they are just another pub.

#7 Crown1

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 09:41 AM

what do you mean in houses?

Where can i find those matches?


And i was actualy thinking about adding a few of you guys that actualy play lots of CM games and so....
My steam id: crownadi, if you are above average and u play good lvl matches, add me. Thanks

#8 StefY

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 10:34 AM

Simply play with better players and you will improve your skills. I think it's better to play Inhouse games with decent people of course, then party of 5 man.

And You can not compare public games(with -AP, -SD,- RD etc.) and real Dota games(with -CM, -CD modes). If you are good in public, that doesnt mean you are good in IH games, and vice versa.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 10:45 PM

+1 to nebaz

#10 Crown1

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 01:25 AM

I did not ask how to become a superb player, i just asked for better games then pub games,

Can someone gives me some examples of some "in houses"? How can i find this games? do i need a team ?

#11 Meamorez

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 01:33 AM

i got same problem to,my friend(real life) only play pub and they can stomp and win (with me of course) but when play inhouse -cm mode they still not good,but when i play inhouse with friend that i meet in some inhouse game we can win most of the game,i try to improve my friend lvl by giving them dota 1 replay and learn from there but they dont listen and still play pub,also they dont like inhouse and clanwar game because they think it to complicated and hard,also i tried to give them role ingame but they still wan to play with 5 carry game and play pub,so i feel like i should give up and play with my inhouse friend that i never meet

#12 Crown1

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 01:45 AM

oh, #11 this is not the case..we have specific roles in our team but i just find that by doing just this is not enough

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 08:50 AM

Than all you need to do is join IRC and search for cw's make friends with other teams and keep the practise up after that try to join some lower competition, make more friends and practise with more teams.... this cycle never ends...

#14 hellraider

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 09:47 AM

watch 2009 videos !!Believe me it will work.even puupey watches.(said in stream with tobi)

#15 Crown1

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 04:18 PM

#14, but 2009 played only dota 1 if i am not mistaking no ?

#16 yoshi-

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 04:37 PM

Play tiny he grows

#17 Rufio-

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 01:26 AM

2012-05-27 18:37, Yoshi- wrote:
Play tiny he grows


LOLOLOL

#18 ngazirrrrrrrrrrrrr

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 06:49 AM

Look for other teams to play. This is called clan war. In house means everyone playing are friends.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 06:55 AM

join In-house such as Keita, Na-dl...

but the real thing is Join a Tournament, and Grab a Victory...
it will change your prespective to the Game....
right now, what you seek is "the divine move"..
a Flawless victory which doesnt exist...

no matter how good you at juking, farm, and Gank. if you lose it will be nothing.
when you join a tournament, you will do everything to WIN.
somehow, you will see something different, and find a things or two that you've never imagined it.

look at Puppey, ArtStyle, 2009, or others chinese top teams, their Draft, their playstyle, is nothing but for Victory.
sometimes its boring, sometimes its surprising.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 07:32 AM

4F
First develop individual skills, hard? You just need to practice.
Form a team and apply these skills in a 5v5 situation.
Find a 5-man party and play with them.
Fabricate your teams coordination.

After all, unknown teams that has no "legendary" players do well with good team coordination.




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