19 replies to this topic

[paul-tehoctupus]

Yeah, topic title is program. I think IF should change it, since force staff is allowed and dagger not, where is the logic? I bet dagger would be key item on pudge.

[Fw-]

agree here. same for venge

[Frigoleet]

Cause you can bilnk yourself into the trees and the hook people so they're stuck. It doesn't work with forcestaff since you cut down trees if you're pushed into them.

[paul-tehoctupus]

hm then get a tp and ure unstuck.. i dont know where is the problem nowadays. it would not be op IMO.

edit: okay, for pub games without courier it really sucks. but that shouldnt be the case for competitive dota.

[LosVikos]

surprise is a really big element, you can bite them w/o their notice and you dont even need hook for this

[Machz]

What is the single strongest ability Vengeful Spirit and Pudge possess throughout the entire game?? The ability to disrupt enemy positioning.

A Pudge/VS + Blink Dagger Combo would be so powerful in any situation of the game that it must be prevented. You just can't have the ability to disrupt enemy's position coupled with the ability to position yourself freely.

Tell me something, you were thinking in using it right? Thinking how it would be very useful, flashy and nice. You can't give that ability for free, specially in the competitive scene.

When you are playing Pubs, and there is a Pudge in the game and a Mexican Standoff scene is happening, what do people think?
Pudge's Enemies: Don't get hooked by Pudge
Pudge Allies: Let's wait for Pudge to make a Dendi Hook.

It is not about getting people stuck in un-passable terrain. Although true and valid, this is a shallow argument and void of any effort done for critical thinking.

[zerov-]

its just too imba for pudge if allowed to use dagger...

[EEEEEEEF]

#6 u can say this to nevermore, shaker, enigma, tide, magnus etc
imba for pudge? sad story

[SpiritusScanti]

stop bringing your HoN mentality here please

[pagan-poetry]

not just getting stuck , you could be hooked from anywhere and there will be no way to counter pudge cause you won't know where he might stand . that's too imba and actually less fun .

[vrvink]

speaking of getting stuck how about ezalor can use dagger and have a skills that call u in any place lol...

[yoahl]

dagger pudge will be beyond godlike all game, dagger+ulti+rot+hook... auto kill... dagger vs will be, swap+dagger auto escape for vs... don't compare force staff to dagger... Force staff has lower range which 600 and dagger with 1200 range if im not mistaken... and dagger is more accurate in positioning... you can blink at any area with the given range but using force staff you can only travel at forward direction which is predictable...

@7 sf, enigma, es etc. needs dagger for their ulti with out them their useless... their ulti is for team fights not auto kill... imagine es with no dagger lol ES: hello I'm here and I'm gonna ulti you just give me a sec ... Enemy: Kill him!... ES:dead

[nomanaforheal]

2012-05-11 05:26, EEEEEEEF wrote:
#6 u can say this to nevermore, shaker, enigma, tide, magnus etc
imba for pudge? sad story

lol th, its imba for pudge

[LGD.Mali]

I wouldn't like to see Dagger on Pudge or Venge. A dagger on Pudge would make his hook so useless, just jump and ulti and hook for the last hit... Dagger on venge? Ulti and quick dagger to avoid death... I think it's good like that.

[SWEKAIOS]

#7
ofc you re&&rd!
lvl 7 pudge with dagger, hooking hardcarry from trilane with dagger+smoke!
fucking re&&rd!

[-Infinitum-]

10# ezalor can only call allies. If u want to betray your allies,well go on but only cheap troll does that. Betraying teammates never crossed IF's mind thats why he let ezalor free from dagger-banned.

[S1lv3r]

#10 eza cant port enemies where he wants to. he got just an abilitie to take mates to him. that is maybe almost same thing like chen ability but not nearly the same like pudge

[ngazirrrrrrrrrrrrr]

2012-05-11 10:17, -Infinitum- wrote:
10# ezalor can only call allies. If u want to betray your allies,well go on but only cheap troll does that. Betraying teammates never crossed IF's mind thats why he let ezalor free from dagger-banned.

-disablehelp.

[fastforza]

It should stay forbidden.

[AizenJabberwock]

it's illegal to stuck, end of story. Stop crying about it.