51 replies to this topic

[Litmus]

Where is Batrider in the D2 competitive scene these days? I mean, hes never getting picked or banned. What happened for such an OP hero to just disappear?

[venom_]

everyone knows not to let batrider stack his napalm now:) I still find him powerful however, he makes opponent retreat and farms well but i dunno why proes dont pick him

[Makakarer]

I think, Bc teams who loves bat don't come to dota 2 scene,yet.

[osivangl]

some pros used to say batrideder was bugged on dota 2, thats way he wasn´t picked at all. I don't know now.

[besi.sll]

Bat in dota2 doesn't feel like bat in dota1, kinda sad ;(

[BabyF4CE]

Batrider doesn't appreciate getting frostbitten in midair

[revnat]

same reason why pudge not picked so often, they are momentum based heroes

bad early game can completely render them useless.

batrider needs early levels and dagger to be effective, he will be much less

useful if shut down early.

[samikimaru]

same reason why pudge not picked so often, they are momentum based heroes

bad early game can completely render them useless.

batrider needs early levels and dagger to be effective, he will be much less

useful if shut down early.

lol

[71]

No-one picks bat because 830God is out of the scene.

[Y-fi]

2012-04-29 07:31, revnat wrote:
same reason why pudge not picked so often, they are momentum based heroes

bad early game can completely render them useless.

batrider needs early levels and dagger to be effective, he will be much less

useful if shut down early.

Im facepalming right now. I wont even point out what all was wrong in that post.

[LegoLas]

2012-04-29 07:31, revnat wrote:
same reason why pudge not picked so often, they are momentum based heroes

bad early game can completely render them useless.

batrider needs early levels and dagger to be effective, he will be much less

useful if shut down early.

Are you kidding me? I mean I seriously have nothing to say.

[RamiZ]

#6 Except that Pudge can be shut down quite easily and can be owned on the lane by a lot of heroes, Bat Rider can't, he is the best solo lane hero, only hero that can be on pair with him is Shadow Demon.

[saberyoda]

like synderen said apart from balance changes sometimes heroes just go out of style (only to be rediscovered).

Bat was insane single target focusing machine with bkb+blink. His ulti goes through bkb also(correct me). Nowadays teams split the farm so much , he lacks lusture. Maybe use him in tri lane like artstyle did (pudge raped that game )

Also the visual ques from dota2 oil stack does help a little bit. Loads of abilities have great visual ques that were missing in dota.
'DOTA2 <3

[Litmus]

Even if teams split farm, Bat is as good as before. I mean seriously which hero do you think will serve a better purpose when they split farm except for furion? Also Bat isnt the kind of hero to get forgotten. The other heroes which people stopped using were because of a specific reason like Dusa needing too much farm for the metagame.

[LegoLas]

Another reason for it to be not getting picked so often is because of some particular heroes not getting picked in the other side. We haven't seen a lot of AM/Lycan lately which triggers the picking of bat, a lot.

[Angel]

#14 Lycan was banned/picked in every single game lately.

[PaiN-]

because the oil animation is clearer, thus making the opponent know that they are stacked.

[Litmus]

#14 Anti mage has been picked quite regularly, bat was still never picked though. Hell, even SF is being picked here and there by M5 and the lot. Yet, bat is never being picked or banned. Quite suprising.

[LegoLas]

2012-04-29 18:51, GG-Angel wrote:
#14 Lycan was banned in every single game lately.

Corrected.

[KrocK]

#6 : Sorry, What ?
#10 : Then Dont?

Apparently, Batrider has some issues with :
1.Attack animation
2.Napalm failing to stack in some cases
3.The path/aoe of firefly
Source: Slesh+Tobi+dev forums

He is still op in Dota1 and almost a perma pick for Trust.
They also picked him today in the match against SB.