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[revnat]

by far one of the most unsuccessful hero.
i think icefrog should do something to buff her w/o making her imba in late game.

she lacks escape skill and any other nuke [like sniper has assassinate and sharpnels + extra range] , makes her quite useless in early - mid game.

suggest some ways to bring drow in metagame.

i think adding an escape skill (like windwalk) ... giving a reliable nuke/stun

or simply providing pushing capability would work fine.

[Hiero]

She's as forgotten as troll warlord!

[brasi]

yeah, unlike sniper drow is really bad.

[Dinozavre]

And yet, she is more useful than Sniper.

[midnightoil]

A hero with a 5 sec aoe silence is never useless

[Angel]

#4 I agree

[cli(n)t]

I think shes OK...if you think about it...she can be also played as a support...get some bracers or vang and you have sup with slow, aura, silence and some good amount of dmg nad attack speed

[snusk]

Her ultimate hurts .

[FadeawaY]

she is balanced... every buff would make her imbalanced imo
XBOCT own with her pro game... lost against dts discourage them to play her but it was not drows fault...
thing is that silence can make miracle, aura is imba, only HoD and yasha for solo rosh for ranged hero is rly good

[StefY]

She is one of the most powerfull heroes in late game. She is a carry, and like others carry heroes she is useless at the beginning of the game. You just need to farm with her.
''by far one of the most unsuccessful hero.''
Because she doesnt have a support with her, and he cant farm in pub, or on the other hand players dont know to farm.

Anyway i saw her like ganker. With slow+boots(first item). Was pretty good.

[ImpetuousTiger]

Drow is rly on of the most powerfull late heroes if not the best carry, If you have decent support and can farm core items pretty fast u can own alone everything!
Want WW ? farm WW

[The_4Lb1N0S]

with the appropriate skill build she can be useful at anytime, there is no static skill build and i think this hero is very interesting because it offers a super great amount of skill builds (max frost arrows to have some ganking power, or max silence for some gank/antigank power, or get stats for 1v1 or get an easier time on lane...)
she can perform wonder once she hits lvl 6: her damages and attck speed get a sudden burst, with a good silence she can survive an hesitating or underestimating gank, and kill the gankers. she can orbwalk really decently (awesome with stats in 1v1)
she has great team fight power (really high DPS + imba silence + the aura) but need to be the main damage dealer, with the team only here to let her dps
and well, she is easy to gank but not everyone can gank her (for instance, a poorly lvled rylai want to initiate the gank? silence + few arrow and she is dead before realizing, hence ruining the gank). Actually, if you cant STUN her, she will deal DPS, and as soon as she gets a lifesteal, she can be troublesome to kill.

So i don't think she needs any balance, IMO its the other hardcarries who need nerf (AM is still so strong... one of the best lategame + one of the best farmer + only need a support at the very beginning / can solo.....) See the amount of unplayed carries? they dont need a buff (they are already being played all the time in pub), its the others who need a nerf.

[LegoLas]

I mean seriously what is she going to do with one nuker and one damager in the opponent team.
The only thing she knows when she is ganked is walking.
I would actually like her to have some night skills. Maybe like a wind walk or something.

[ImpetuousTiger]

#12 like #10 said: Want WW ? farm WW

[10kd4]

"by far one of the most unsuccessful hero."

This and I stop reading. Actually is the most successful hero... whenever she is picked, the team wins. Ok, she is not picked in EVERY game (like... of 100 game, 3 drow picks), but win rate = 100%

[revnat]

^was talking professional matches not pub games here

apart from NaVi no other team could actually use it well [and even they lost a couple of games with it]

its just that she can be shut down pretty easily and far volatile to nukes/aoe
until bkb.

gank heavy and push heavy lineup decimate her nevertheless.

also farming bkb/windwalk takes a lot of time while she wud be already ganked
10 times/

all in all not as efficient as other hard carries in current metagame and thats
the reason why its NOT picked even if other prominent carries are already banned.

[Sylar_Quintana]

2012-04-25 22:31, revnat wrote:
^was talking professional matches not pub games here

apart from NaVi no other team could actually use it well [and even they lost a couple of games with it]

its just that she can be shut down pretty easily and far volatile to nukes/aoe
until bkb.

gank heavy and push heavy lineup decimate her nevertheless.

also farming bkb/windwalk takes a lot of time while she wud be already ganked
10 times/

all in all not as efficient as other hard carries in current metagame and thats
the reason why its NOT picked even if other prominent carries are already banned.

You haven't considered that she is a lategame hero? What she lacks in early game, she gets in lategame in raw power.


If you watched DotA, when Dusa/Drow/Morph/Sniper was the big four, you'd know that Drow, in the right metagame, is about as deadly as anything.

[MiC.]

2012-04-25 22:00, 10kd4 wrote:
"by far one of the most unsuccessful hero."

This and I stop reading. Actually is the most successful hero... whenever she is picked, the team wins. Ok, she is not picked in EVERY game (like... of 100 game, 3 drow picks), but win rate = 100%

what game do u play? pls give me link i dont think its dota

[revnat]

#16

2012-04-25 22:31, revnat wrote:
^was talking professional matches not pub games here

apart from NaVi no other team could actually use it well [and even they lost a couple of games with it]

its just that she can be shut down pretty easily and far volatile to nukes/aoe
until bkb.

gank heavy and push heavy lineup decimate her nevertheless.

also farming bkb/windwalk takes a lot of time while she wud be already ganked
10 times/

all in all not as efficient as other hard carries in current metagame and thats the reason why its NOT picked even if other prominent carries are already banned.

^ THIS

[wagamamaw]

In almost all situations, there is another type of carry that fits better right now than drow. That doesn't make her bad, that means she will warm the bench until the playstyle swings to her favour again. #18 is on target.