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#1 frogNor

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 08:25 AM

Hi
First of all Pls dont flame me because iam new =) this wuld be nice.

Now my Problem ,
i know most of the heros now and also pick the heos that i love to play but i want to know some counters so that i cant tell other players maybe what to pick or what should i pick.
So if somone can tell me a bit more about knowing who counters who or make a short Counter-Pick Guid would be so great :)

thx for every tip and help =).

sry for my bad english!

#2 Angel

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 09:06 AM

Well no one gonna flame you just because you've asked a simple question. It's normal that we as humans don't know every single detail, so that's why questions exist in the first place.

About your question, hm well you should ask for a specific hero, because there are a several counters for each of them, so I think it's a little pointless to write for all of heroes.

So if there is any hero which you prefer the most, just write down his name and we might try to help with the counters :)

#3 ToXic_

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 11:31 AM

Your best bet to find out counter picks would be to watch the pro games. Everything they usually do counters what someone else is doing at the same time.

If you don't have time to sit and watch streams or youtube videos, just think to yourself what moves counter what heroes, e.g. to counter an Anti-Mage, most people could pick a Shadow Demon, Outworld Destroyer because of their banish moves or sometimes you might even see a Razor because of his damage drain.

Hope that helps at least a little :)

#4 2012z

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 12:19 PM

playdota.com/guides\heroes

#5 zerov-

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 09:46 AM

its simply like this...
Gank > Push
Push > Turtling
Turtling > Gank

If ur enemies pick heroes such as Chen, enchantress, brood, furion while most of them has versatile pushing skills.
pick Ganker with good utillity item, and counter them endlessly...
such as Sand King, Puck, ES, Storm spirit...

when ur enemies pick 2 or more Hard Carry, pick a good pusher so they would be left by a two bad choices. keep farming but let towers down, or defends towers and just wasting time...like DP, Brood, Furion, chen, enchantress...

when ur enemies pick good gankers and good at early games...
Go Buy Wards, then turtling...
most case : when balanar picked by your enemies, just grouping and plant some wards, then turtling...let bala running around like idiot, until day time comes.
dont be surprised in MM, when u see people keep forcing to farm at lane...
and fucked up by NS so many times...
Bala is not imba, but if u insist fight him at night in early games its just retard...
because he's very good at Early-middle and in night session.

#6 Wahid145

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 08:47 PM

#4 kinda said it all :)

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 10:08 PM

#2 actually destroyer is picked to counter am cause of his pure dmg from orb and mana regen from aura, ignoring am's mana shield not letting him get low mana for a big am ult.


#8 Crown1

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 08:03 AM

Like 4 said and one other thing u can do:

what #3 said, u can check the guides on playdota.com and when u check the counter heroes in a hero guide stop and think a bit why are those heroes the counter picks..do this a few times and u will get the logic behind the words

#9 triste

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 03:33 PM

haha i do use heroes like lina and lion as it have nukes and stuns which allows me to nuke and run easily :D .And comeon..lina'sskill animation is cool isnt it?(out of pointt though:p)

#10 Fr3akad3ll3

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 05:36 PM

since you can play most heroes in different ways its hard to give a strict guide about counter picking, but #4 gave it a good shot ;)

i think you just should play some games, and figure out which heroes you find it hard to face and think of the reasons why it is so ...
but really, if you can play a hero really good, its hard to counter it .. just get practice




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