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The_Past

Which lane-rax is better to push? (3344 reads, 19 replies, 3 months ago)

So, my friend and I ended up in an argument about which lane would be better to push in order to take a rax.

I stated that the middle lane would be best due to the fact that it has a wider area (meaning that the enemies will have a harder time initiating you), it has greater importance due to being the center of the map (and teamfights often take place near it), and that it would be more easy to ignore the bot or top lane being pushed, by simply not killing the creeps on that lane till they reached the base. Furthermore it would be easier to push to another lane from mid in case of a won teamfight.

He stated that it was easier for the enemy to pick out heroes (when pushing mid and being spread), that it was better to have bot or top lane being pushed due to the distance between the two, so when one was pushed down it would be easier to push the other, and that mid had no special importance whatsoever when it would come to teamfights.

My arguments didnt seem to convince him.

SO: Which lane is the better to push ? Mid or a sidelane, and why?
(will need some arguments).

NOTE: THIS IS NOT ABOUT TIER 1 OR 2 TOWERS, ITS ABOUT PUSHING AND DESTROYING A RAX IN EITHER MID OR SIDES!!!

Regards!

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If you are so far ahead that it isn't much easier to push one lane over the others you should push the weak lane since it makes threatening the other lanes easier.

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akelen

For my opinion , it depends on where's my enemy farmer(carry) stands the lane... Or if you are (sentinel)try pushing top and conquer (scourge) Forest
Either (scourge) or (sentinel) it sees what strategies u need to plan .

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Smeagol-

I really don't know why but my friends and I always push the bottom lane when scourge and top when senti.

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dZ.d1PZ-_-

^ indeed, i feel like doing the same thing everytime, it feels more comfortable.
but i think there isnt a big difference and it all depends on the heroes in the game, personally if im entering the base i would do that on mid lane but if im taking t1 towers then the side lanes. For t2 i think its the same every lane

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3 months ago

BabyF4CE

For me, it's the sidelanes, let's say the enemy team is not defending and going for a push while you've already got a sidelane rax, the creeps will focus on 1 T4 alone because their coming from that direction, correct me if I'm wrong there..but if it's like what I said, that destroys the base faster and provides more pressure. It also forces the enemy team to have to push that particular lane which is longer and easier to defend.

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3 months ago

maharot.ph

mid is always better. the lane is shorter and will push faster than the side lanes. the only reason why the side lanes are sometimes better is that the opposite side is too far. so when you start the team fight at the bottom and you are raxxed at top. because the constant pressure being applied to a side that is very far from the other one.

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Will.KL

So we talk here about sitiation where my team (e.g. on Sentinel side) destroyed all outer towers and now want to destroy T3 + rax.

1st thing is which one is easier: Well it comes to strategy. You seems to be talking about teamfight oriented ones (on both sides). Ok than let's look on what kind of teamfight control we have and what they have. Top and Bottom are smaller in terms of mine positioning before their T3 tower, but also offers High ground for my side. So I would initiate on them if i have heal / high durabiliry team and not face AoE disablers like Enigma, ES or other big AoE positioning heroes like Dark Seer. On the other hand if I have more solo initiation (VS, Storm, Batride etc) and team opposite team Have AoE cc's and stuff. I should go with middle as it offers more space for me to move and more space to initiate from (via blinks, force staffs etc).

2nd thing is which rax means more benefits.
Well transitioning from one to other is same when we talk about "I rape them so i want to push more raxes b4 they spawn". As you have you creeps there and hence it doesn't matter where other lane equriblium is right now.
On the other hand some benefits go to middle, which is short so you better creeps will push faster there. But side lane creates more space for your push, so all in all it's same.

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Beyond_Dreams

imo the best lane to get rax down is the opponents savelane. this way its harder for the enemy to get out there and eventually get some creeps in the woods as well as it reduces their general mapcontrol (a lot of space to go at the savelane/jungle).
Puls imo its much easier then to push the opposite sidelane because as said they have to def the other lane where the big creeps are and the distance is longer between those two.

Plus it happens a few times that the enemy doesnt notice that the creeps are pushing when its not midlane resulting in the wave dealing dmg to the t4 towers

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Siaunen2

Actually if your team has capability to win big clashes, its better to destroy mid raxx because mid raxx give you mobility, otherwise if your team play wingman strategy, its better destroy side line, because your team can destroy the weak lines because the enemy is forced to spread out if you can manage to push opponents weak line and pull opponents strong line

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nevra

I think top lane is the best lane to destroy first. It is the lane that has the longest distance to Roshan who is the most important objective on the map. If 1 hero has to stay defending that lane you will have a 5v4 advantage at Rosh.

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Hotshots)Ace

There was once on the news an article about map facts for example distance of lanes.And in there it mentioned that for example bot lane of sentinel creeps attack ranged rax first.Read it.Thnx

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The_Past

#12 Could you link it ? :)

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Beyond_Dreams

#10
I have to disagree here with you.
In my opinion its way harder to have roshan control when tha lane nearer to roshan is getting pushed! this way you can hardly get towards rosh without beeing spotted, you only have the midlane way to enter roshan. 1 ward and you are instantly spotted earlie on. only way to counter this is obviously smoke but that is just not allways available. and since you have to def the lane it could be possible that the opposition catches a glance of the smoke.

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Revoir-

Top when pushing against scourge and bottom if against sentinel that's what me and my mates do.

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nhA-

I personally find it a lot easier to push bottom against sentinel and top against scourge ... no reason just feel a little safer to do that.

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ihkke

I think it should always depend on the situation. Supposing each lane is pushed as much as the others and you're sentinel, if you just won a teamfight at roshan then you will push bottom, if you ganked your enemy carry in their woods you will push top..

I just dont feel like any team should waste any time to push x instead of y because of any reasons mentioned.

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#17

Pushing mid-lane is the hardest way of all. Defending on mid-lane is way easier and make your pushing job a lot harder than any other lane.

^Not really.

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XCN

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that's because of screens' format, width>height, therefore by pushing botlane being scourge and toplane being sentinel you have more vision on the fight which makes the teamfight easier for the attacking team

the defending team know where their opponents are whereas the attacking team doesn't, so that wider vision is better for the team which is pushing

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