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hcuolel2
why nerf the crow ice frog =( (11066 reads, 73 replies, 5 months ago)
yeah BC strat is frequently use now but personally, i think Icefrog made a huge mistake with this one. most of the time, i used crow to deliver my items, not to refill bottles. if he want to nerf the Bottle crow strat, then why nerf the crow?
imo, it's much better if he nerf the bottle itself, like left-clicking the fountain to refill it, or make it expensive (750 gold), not make the crow vulnerable to attacks, it doesn't make sense, what's the point of buying a crow now? i might buy a tp scroll and get back to my base just to get my items.

PS

i commented in a thread here 2 days ago (can;t remember) with 2009 commentating about LGD vs MI how the BC strat affects the game.
i said that crow hunting strategy is the shitiest strat i've ever heard, now i might consider this as a deadly strat

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Frigoleet
Rofl angry pinoy <3
On topic: This change doesnt nerf the bottle-crow strat that much since it will still be very hard to kill a crow. This change was made so killing a courier with for example a relic wouldn't completely ruin the game. (since the couriers dont drop items upon death any more).
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LegoLas (Moderator)
A nerf was coming now or later to the crow/bottle.
I think we should take it in a new way, as it brings more importance to the courier, less BC strat and after it dies we dont get access to the items in it until it revives back after 3 mins.
I think it was a change needed to keep the game alive in some or other way.

Edited to 3 mins T_T
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radamanthus
icefrog himself is afraid of the bottle crow tech
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mad pinoys should calm the hell down...
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#3 isn't it 3 minutes? even 3 mins is too much not even talkin about 5...
i dont use BC but this nerf is too much, maybe it wouldve been better if your items drop back in base or somethin, maybe after a minute and the crow after 2-3 but this, this is too much
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musmatta
lol shut up pinoy and learn to play without spamming spells and tanking creeps..

IMO this was a buff. NO BOTTLE FOR 3 MINUTES, NOOH
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mg-ac
You whine too much just like my pinoy college friend. Oh wait yall the same.

I like how IF is turning DotA into a more competitive and skill intensive game.

Faster games=more actions
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Pianoparanoia
This also means I can't play the "When you die buy crow" game with my friends
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maharot.ph
I think it's a good thing.
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knaekbrod
#1 heard some1 refarmed another relic in 8min...was pretty epic...wont happen again
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JOKER.
lets get use to it
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2011-12-25 15:54, -tx-legolas wrote:
A nerf was coming now or later to the crow/bottle.
I think we should take it in a new way, as it brings more importance to the courier, less BC strat and after it dies we dont get access to the items in it until it revives back after 5 mins.
I think it was a change needed to keep the game alive in some or other way.



3 Mins bro.


Not nerf more than a buff cause the crow wont drop the items and will revive.
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RazorEdge
It wasn't a nerf. It was a balance tweak, so if you drop an item, you won't give it to the other team or lose it, rather, you give gold to your opponents.

And that's why he removed the invulnerability shield.
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it is a nerf. it gives 5x150 instead of 300 gold and if u have crucial items for your hardcarry you need to wait 3 more minutes before doing anything
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oniichan.NiKO
can't wait to see the next MPGL with a new stable map after 6.72f
pinoy hero pool might change even without those buffs because of this change
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Will.KL
Imo it's buff with some drawbacks (like the cd on respawn and no shield), so basically rework. I like it actually.
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Making the COURIER easier to be ENGAGED.
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+1

@OP

Icefrog has his reasons why he did this so don't just put it as he made a mistake because we are generally known to be BC strat users
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