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caroDe

BKB should be reworked? (8432 reads, 40 replies, 1 year ago)

after i watched WCG 2010 replay btw Starboba vs BBH.Razer,something coming up to me.

i just realize how important BKB is to the 2sec-ulti-cast hero like SF(and some other hero) to cast the ulti, but i just 'LOL'ed when the ulti was interrupted by some spells even the BKB is Activated!

-BKB not immune to certain spells (Vs swap,nectolyte ulti,Magnus ulti) and many MORE!! (u guys know that better than me)..

BKB should be immunes to all kinds of spells,that's the reason why players built one,am i right?

what do do guys think?

rofllmao

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maelk.milk

BKB is already good as it is. Having it buffed would lessen other player's interest on using other heroes. For example,if BKB would have the immunity against the ulti of necrolyte then I would not opt to use necro anymore since his best spell is completely useless against opponents equiped with BKB. The same with other heroes.

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llort

#1 Totaly the only reason to pick necro like np

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Crush3d11111

bkb got nerfed when they make it 10,9,8,7,6,5
so bad..
or if u vs rexxar/wd bkb so useless

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1 year ago

noes

i think u want rework cuz u got outplayed so many times in public or w/e u play!

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Dinozavre

It was so imba when it was 10 sec all the time, I am very pleased with the remake.

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1 year ago

-_-

its fine with BKB now

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Evilm

2010-07-28 00:51, macross_zero3000 wrote:
BKB should be immunes to all kinds of spells,that's the reason why players built one,am i right?

and there is a reason certain spells are called "ultimate", am i right? : ¨)

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caroDe

2010-07-28 01:13, hale_dam wrote:
BKB is already good as it is. Having it buffed would lessen other player's interest on using other heroes. For example,if BKB would have the immunity against the ulti of necrolyte then I would not opt to use necro anymore since his best spell is completely useless against opponents equiped with BKB. The same with other heroes.

dont be one-sided dude.dota is 5v5, not 1on 1 based game.and i'm pretty sure not all 5 enemy heroes would get BKB just to counter your one and only Necrolyte ulti which is 0.001sec-ulti-cast...and as u guys know, BKB just activated for just 10sec(correct me if i'm wrong) and it's a very short time (but i dont object that) if BKB is immune to any spells

2010-07-28 02:00, Evilm wrote:

2010-07-28 00:51, macross_zero3000 wrote:
BKB should be immunes to all kinds of spells,that's the reason why players built one,am i right?

and there is a reason certain spells are called "ultimate", am i right? : ¨)

yes u r so right...let me ask u sumthing. Why this ulti can counter BKB,that ulti cant? what so special of Necro ulti(example) than Viper ulti (example)

am i right? hell yes i am

rofllmao

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Dinozavre

Please, I had SOME respect for you before this statement "am i right? hell yes i am

"

Why do you even bother to ask the community if you know you are right.

I am better than you

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1 year ago

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caroDe

#9 lol i was just joking dude,chill~

can i earn back ur respect?

rofllmao

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Sh1LLa

yo guys after watching a private dota match between MYM|Mark and HarryPotter94 it was coming to me. BKB is too weak.

HarryPotter94 made BKB on his Viper to be able cast ulti against enemy Troll Warlord but his bash go right through it!!!

After 10 seconds (in the beginning) he was even vulnerable against Mark's Blind again. Later on even less (down to 5 seconds at minute 42).
After that it stayed the same but i think BKB would be much better if it had a permanent avatar effect instead of the 10-5 second activatable. Also, it can't counter Troll Bash, so i think another change is in order:

it would be much better if it didn't have this 1300 gold recipe cost (ogre axe + hammer = 2600 is good price), it took Harry a whole 23 Minutes to farm it (and STILL useless vs Bash!!!!!)

so what do you think?

edit: interesting link on BKB: http://www.playdota.com/forums/237061/BKB-Remake/

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Crush3d11111

@11
wtf? ofc bash go through bkb since it come from attack not spell, same goes for void slardar bara.. get ghost scepter on viper since u can orb when u use it,,

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Burigo

well i hate when bkb doesnt work so much that i agree with op

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caroDe

raw attack: surely the only solution to hurt BKB-activated hero,2nd option,none other than to run :|

passive skills attack: like bash from troll,Void,SB,ulsa -cut through armor 3rd skill--> unprotected form BKB

aura (passive): like Death Pulse, Undying ulti (slow) and even Radiance? (i'm not sure about this)..is BKB activated got hurt here?

magic spell (active) + Ultimate: BKB-protected (some not)

p/s: to make this clear,the only thing questioned here is the active casting magic spell~

rofllmao

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draugth

dude, the argue about ultimates is lame, bkb is by far one of the best items in the current meta game; look, the game now revolves around support heroes more that ever (2 to 3 support heroes per team is normal these days), and bkb basically counters them, their damage, their disables (look lion or cm).

now, if bkb is remade, and allows user to become fully immune to ANY spell, you can get 3 bkb on one team (3 carry strat) and steamroll the other team, unless they do the same, it's not quite a good solution isn't it?

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