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DENY QUIZ (5339 reads, 27 replies, 1 year ago)

can u deny yourself like this? (say they are under 10hp)
(a) blood seekr blood rage himself
(b) centaur can't suicide with his double edge, wat if he blademails then cast double edge or double edge blademailed enemy?
(c) druid kills his cute little bear
(d) bane nightmares himself
(e) tiny throws his teammates fatal bonded by warlock
(f) alchemist concoction himself
(g) panda got aegis, but while ulti all his 3 pandas die will he revive?
i actually donno the answers of some

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omfgIpwnHARD

i know some
a) blood seeker can deny himself
b) dunno :~~
c) yeah
d) yeah
e) dunno
f) yeah
g) dunno

haha.. i dont know about a bunch ^^ but thats ok

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Yang-

nice quiz, sr but I don't know any answer.

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1 year ago

Garuda

A. Deny with 15 hp/s?? Of all the dmg you gonna deny yourself with those punny 15 life/s? I dont think so, you can only kill yourself. But not "deny" :)
B. If he does double edge on blademail while reaching 1 hp he will obviously die to bm -_-
C. Thats possible but highly unlikely.
D. He cant kill himself with that, I dont think he can even kill an enemy with nightmare. You wake up when you reach 1 hp.
E. That just might work :) Unlikely tho.
F. Ofc
G. He dies if all pandas die.

To be a rock and not to roll

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1 year ago

AkA-

thats not true u can die with nightmare

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1 year ago

BilGames

Nightmare can kill yourself O_O!
E. True, i've done it before

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mAharOt.ph

(a) yes
(b) i have no idea
(c) yes
(d) yes
(e) i think will be killed by warlock
(f) yes
(g) maybe will revive? cause of aegis?

Is your brain on cooldown??

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1 year ago

0tso

a) y
b) u will not be denying urself afaik
c) unsure
d) y
e) if he has 15 hp then tiny will deny him but if the killing dmg is fatal bonds wl will get the kill
f) y
g) afaik he will revive

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1 year ago

fObi

#4 in case you misread the title, its about sheer mathematical possibility of the things happening not about the likehood of them happening.
and you can kill yourself with nightmare.
i remember a funny replay, i dont know who played bane on that occasion but he was like wicked sick in i dunno 10-15 mins, really owning the opposing team and they cornered him and he denied himself with nightmare frustrating the fuck out of them, i totally loved that.

oO?

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1 year ago

Garuda

Well i tried nightmare on a dying hero a few times and he just woke up at 1hp, unless my mind is playing tricks on me. I never tried killing myself with nm tbh, just assumed u cant die since it looked like you cant kill opponents either.
And i didnt misread teh title but as I know, Im still allowed to say what I think after giving a clear answer("possible","might work...")

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Mandurang

Definitive answers:

(a) Yes. Can deny self and allies.
(b) No.
(c) No. No damage is taken.
(d) Yes. Can deny self and allies.
(e) No. The only damage Tiny will be taking is from Fatal Bonds. If lethal, the kill goes to Warlock. You can deny the Tossed ally, and only him. If other Bonded allies die, the source of the lethal damage is again Warlock.
(f) Yes.
(g) Yes, he will revive as the original hero with Primal Split in cooldown.

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Zeyall

moved to strategy

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#12

Garuda

Druid denies bear and takes no dmg?

Also, I am positive that Panda will die if all 3 pandas are destroyed, i saw that. But that was long ago, mb im just not up to date :)
Edit: Oh, aegis..cant read zz

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#13

Mandurang

^ That is correct.

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machoihd

druid can deny himself by kills his bear
i'm sure abt it

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#15

Sacraloth

centaur with ghost scepter -> suicide with double edge : )

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Mandurang

#14 I'm tempted to act like the mechanics geeks over at playdota and tell you "replay or it didn't happen". I can post one where I just did it and the hero doesn't die, doesn't get denied, doesn't lose any hp at all for that matter. So unless you can provide one that proves different, it's not true.

To futher clarify on Centaur:

Using Double Edge with Blademail on will result on you taking only 400 magical damage (as if you didn't have blademail at all), since only sources other than self are taken into account.
Centaur with Double Edge and Ghost Scepter on can suicide, even though Double Edge on its own cannot cause a suicide anymore. Interestingly, because of the way the code is written, you can suicide if you are under the effect of Natural Order (with or without Ghost Scepter).

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meRzinator

(a) blood seekr blood rage himself - yes you will be denied.

(b) centaur can't suicide with his double edge, wat if he blademails then cast double edge or double edge blademailed enemy? - blademail doesnt return dmg you deal to urself, and if you double edge someone who has blademail he will get the kill

(c) druid kills his cute little bear - yes you will be denied

(d) bane nightmares himself - yes you will be denied

(e) tiny throws his teammates fatal bonded by warlock - no you wont be denied, warlock will get the kill since fatal bonds deal the dmg to you, not the toss.

(f) alchemist concoction himself - yes you will be denied.

(g) panda got aegis, but while ulti all his 3 pandas die will he revive?
i actually donno the answers of some - yes he will respawn.

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Mandurang

At the risk of sounding like a broken record: to all those who said (c) can happen, please link to me a replay (and I'll link you another one where it doesn't happen). I'm very curious about this as I think it should happen (just by reading the JASS), but I haven't been able to reproduce it.

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Garuda

#17 e, He takes 20% dmg when tossed. I think that can deny before bonds kick in.

To be a rock and not to roll

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BilGames

#18 Yes you can kill yourself, because the hero takes 100/200/300/400 Damage, depending on the Spirit bear level. I just tested it.

http://picasaweb.google.com/105810523191071074566/DropBox?authkey=Gv1sRgCK_7z8aKy7u3fA&pli=1#5450030381800647506

Centaur can kill himself with Double Edge while he's under the effect of Mask of Madness or Ghost Scepter.

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