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#21

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gloryfades

yes it's very interesting, i'm sure icefrog would also find info like this somewhat revealing

i mean there's a reason why venge and bm win but i was surprised to see ds and slardar with losing win ratios

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2 years ago

#22

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PROTOZZ-

#20 Yes,we want.

"I know that I know nothing." Socrates

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2 years ago

#23

busyar

"i'm sure icefrog would also find info like this somewhat revealing"

lol noooooo AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

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2 years ago

#24

SLaYeR_

Recommended article.

GJ mate :')

I'm the Alpha n the Omega !

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2 years ago

#25

james_s

very nice work man.
i love u .

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2 years ago

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Mandurang

Good job! I used to do that for all games 6.59-6.62 (or something like that) in another forum. I reached 400 games before my stats became irrelevant. For the record, Mirana/Puck/Crix/Kunkka were the most picked back then. I also tried to help IceFrog with this information, but I was never able to get hold of him (despite knowing people that work with him during development). Maybe you have better luck!

Edit: Maybe you can order by (Ban+Pick) in absolute numbers. That means the number of games where the hero made an appearance. Would be nice to know exactly which hero is the most picked/banned.

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2 years ago

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BilGames

#13 +1

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2 years ago

#28

DoomsVille

#26 the information isn't really all that useful.

All it shows is which heroes are common bans/picks. And most people realize heroes like slardar cm potm kunkka tide etc. are commonly banned or picked.

The win % doesn't really mean much. Aside from the first 10-15 heroes, the rest aren't picked very often. So the win % isn't very useful.

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2 years ago

#29

K1LLzONE

#28
I agree with you. Only a certain number of heroes have played enough to form an oppinion. Like earlier in the list SF was like 8 from 13 games and I thought well his another successful hero(in terms of games won), but then he tumbled really hard. He is now on 16 from 46 and struggling. So saying void is a good pick because of 4 from 4 is not applicable. Heroes like Lion, CM, Venge, Kunka, Sven has played sufficient number of games to see where they stand in terms of % win. I can say that there trends is continuing endlessly. CM can't pick up her percentage by 3 or drop by 3. She just stays there on 36-42% for so long. That must mean something. She is the most popular but doesn't help her team win more than say Venge. Venge was on 13 from 25(52%) and then won 24 from 33(73%) making her overall 37 from 58(64%). KuroKy said himself she needs a small nerf. He said the damage on her -armor scream should be eliminated. Small things like that(So even KuroKy had figured what my list proofs = that Venge is a bit imba). Making big nerfs only destroy the hero. Maybe a -1 base AGI stat + no damage on the sream thingy and she is fixed. CM is on the other hand losing alot(Most popular hero though). Maybe a small +1 armor and +1 base STR can fix her problem. The point is small small small changes goes a long way. To finish of my essay: Omniknight is 7 from 8, in my previous list 6 from 6. Why in the world would pros not pick it more. He cant be countered properly. He repels a carry for the whole team fight giving him a free BKB. Clans on our South African server uses Omni alot more and has mostly success with it. That hero is underrated. Is 13 from 14 games not enough to show a positive trend. Hope Puppey realizes this(BFB -> Blight.Int -> Nirvana.Int FAN!!!!) Omni has a bigger role to play in the future. Trust me!. Szy for my english(Not my 1st language). Cheers for now!

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2 years ago

#30

Mandurang

Well, back when I was doing the same type of work, I was impressed by how often Mirana was picked but even more by the fact that she was almost NEVER banned. She had about 300 picks and 20 bans in 380 games. The bans, I thought, were not an indication of which hero is imba, but rather which hero you don't have a counter for, or counters your strategy effectively. Mirana and Crix are good heroes and have recently been balanced pretty well, but they are no guarantees to a win unless you have an exceptionally good Mirana or Crix in your team. Add to that that they don't counter any strategy more than any other, and you don't have a reason to ban them despite them being top picks.

As for Omni, well, I like the hero too, and he has a lot of potential, especially as a counterpart to heroes that can get Linkens. But his Ulti is insta-b for the other team and Repel can be countered, and he just doesn't do much otherwise. Maybe a different Aura would help him more.

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2 years ago

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