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Av3ng3r

Counters to Sprout (6988 reads, 40 replies, 2 years ago)

So , as the new versions come out , new heroes become more and more popular . As do new strategies . One of those heroes who are just starting to see a bit more playtime is Furion , perhaps most seen picked by now called Nirvanas leader Puppey .

Sprout stats at lvl 4 :
Mana * 160
CD * 8 seconds
Range * 600
Aoe * 150
Duration* 5.25 seconds
Target * Any Unit
Effects * Traps the target using trees

5.25 seconds is an extremely long time . Although not being a real disable , the added stress of seeing 3-4 heroes moving in on you for the kill might cause some panic , impairing your judgement . Sometimes to the extent (yes Im speaking from my own experiences) that you just randomly click everywhere hoping for a miracle to somehow get you out from your wooden prison , effectively making this a 5.25 second stun .

So , onto discussing possible counters for this evil spell .

First up : The Tango ! The most basic counter to sprout . Early game Sprout won't do much to you if you're fast enough eating that tree , and making sure you get the middle one , and not the ones at the sides (not as easy as it sounds/looks . I see pros having a hard time with this aswell) as that will make you either stuck for the duration of the spell , or having to waste another tango . But , for how long is it worth packing tangos just to counter that one spell ? We all know inventory slots are scarce , and having to rebuy tangos does cost atleast some money , which leads us to :

The Quelling Blade . Used in the same fashion as the tango , with the difference of having unlimited charges . But , what if you're a range hero ? Is it worth spending that gold and inventory slot on a QB for 12% dmg to creeps and a sprout counter ? And how long should you keep it ? We all know you'd rather have that extra Wraith Band or a TP . Anything more usefull than a QB , which leads us to :

The Force Staff . Arguably the most underrated item in dota . Extremely versatile , not to mention cheap . This beauty once activated shoots you right through those pesky trees , within a matter of tenths of a second depending on how quick on the trigger you are . Just remember to face the correct way before you go all human cannonball up in this biatch . Is it worth it though ? Even if its cheap it does cost quite a bit of money . Let's say you're playing a Shadow Fiend . None of the above solutions really does it for you , which leads us to :

Other stuff that kind of works vs Sprout . Clever , right ? So , in the aforementioned example of playing a SF you might have a dagger at your disposal . Does it really work that well against sprout ? Chances are you will get hit and then you're stuck there .. for eternity .. , well almost . What about BKB ? Maybe you'll be all Yamateh and activate it right before the first Storm Bolt hits you , but if you're caught alone chances are you're going to die anyway . And having to use up the BKB charges, perhaps not everytime but atleast every once in awhile just to save your ass perhaps isn't a great solution . I think I once saw someone Manta out of a Sprout , but it seems very unreliable . Could be used as a backup if your dagger fails maybe ?

And ye , thats all I have really . Obviously if you're playing a hero like Potm , you just leap . Kind of self-explanatory . Feel free to discuss , and to give your own tips on how to counter sprout , wether it be by items , skills , hero lineups or whatever . Any contribution is welcome . And I know this is long , but Im just trying to help people out , ya know ? So if anyone says tl;dr Im gna be all sadface =( .

Peace out !

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BeyondHeavens

The most effective way to counter sprout is put Furion in ur banlist whenever u encounter a Furion user, otherwise, just deal with it ;).

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Mysterious

tl;read it anyway :D:D:D:D

Panda bear with balls of steel.

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2 years ago

mywayofdotaz

tango is the best, no doubt. quelling blade second if u are melee. force staff is ok... last thing, if u have 600 range or more, just fight... unless he bring reinforcements (which usually almost everytime)..

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2 years ago

Av3ng3r

#2 That warms my heart <3

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2 years ago

DontHateMePlzFFS

beast axe ftw,only if your using beast. for early game ,those trap in sprouts just have to use tango/QB to escape,simple as that.

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2 years ago

death-angel

lol u need to pro like yamateh to dodge a stun with bkb

what a joke

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2 years ago

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Mandurang

Lina, Rexxar, Enigma, Windrunner, Dark Seer, all have abilities that destroy trees in an AoE. Spectre and Treant have skills that they can use to escape.

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2 years ago

Printesa.Grebla

I also think you can manta out

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2 years ago

tempdomain

Techies suicide :D, Warlock ulti, Batrider

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Ramiz

#5 Last time I checked Axes from Beastmaster didn't cut the Sprot's trees. They maybe changed that.

"Living for the swarm..."

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2 years ago

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TanSriRampage

vs swap and sand king burrow strike

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2 years ago

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Caligula

pudge is also fun

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BilGames

Rexxar axe's doesn't cut trees, any blinking hero + tangos maybe tp?

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2 years ago

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tempdomain

Beast's axe not working
Wind's powershot not working
NerubianWeaver's Sukuchi not working but his ulti working
Batrider working but tree not getting destroyed
Lina working trees getting destroyed
Techies working trees getting destroyed
Enigma working trees getting destroyed
Darkterror working
Morph working
Potm leap working
Slark pounce working
Panda ulti sometimes 2 pandas getting stuck sometimes 1 panda getting stuck
Brood spin web working destroying trees
spectre working
meepo poof working
puck working
storm working trees not getting destroyed
jakiro ulti working trees getting destroyed
clockwork ulti with scepter working so am guessing i should work normally too
spiritbreaker ulti working charge not working

lol :D get a life@#14

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