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2 years ago
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MATRIM
2010-01-17 00:42, assassina wrote:
2010-01-16 23:48, MaTrim wrote:
He doesn't understand it by the obvious comments in the games that he lays down.

I mean, he has no knowledge of the players, no knowledge of the teams out there. Then suddenly he starts to flame us as a team, for picking strange heroes. Now here comes the funny part which he doesn't understand. DotA is a fun game to play.


We intend to keep it fun, so we won't have to quit. How do we do that? We play fun heroes which we enjoy playing. It's so easy to see that's he's so dumb, he justified the constant flaming in our games by "I like to see daeg play". Wow, what a bandwagon, another American liking daeg. I mean, most americans who likes Daeg or any player in our team WE know, but he has to jump on it because well, loads of people do it. Just check who he thought was the number one player, Vigoss. Another bandwagon. You probably weren't around the epic VP times.


He's totally biased in his comments and "analysis" of replays and such. There was an article at NAdota.com webpage, which had an article about the general dota community, and why it is so bad. He's one of the stereotypes in there.


Here comes the pubber with no understanding of the actual european scene since he hasn't been a part of any professional dota scene whatsoever

and matrim let me ask you this, do you consider your self a proffesional dota player:)? pls answer me. well let me answer for u. ur nowhere even close to semipro level.

and what a hypocrit. every1 enjoys dota, even more when theyre winning. but can u explain ur fun heroes? IVE NEVER SEEN DIPS PLAYING PUDGE IN GOSUGAMERS REPLAYS CARE TO SAY WHY?? let alone other fun heroes.. reason? u aren't a good pubby pudge? or u like to play same heroes over and over because others are not fun? keep convincing urself of the "fun reason".

vigoss was a really good player back in the days, or no, clan dips>>vigoss? or what, kwom>>vigoss? i dont understand pls state who was better than vigoss in the european scene since u only know this scene in his era of 48b.

atleast i now understand that u dont understand whats a forum for. its for discussing and debating. every1 is entitled to his/her own opinion. funny how dips never picked razor in a serious match be4 SMM, i bet if slickd discussed razor is good, u woulda also laffed and said what an "incorrect newbish opinion". sorry matrim but imo for me, u are unknown newbie with a head full of arrogance just because u play in a ??proknown ??? in the european scene who doesn't understand anything about strategy, only select few understand a bit about strategy.

another thing is that u didnt contributed anyhting to community, not opinions, not thoughts, not strategy.

dunno what makes u think ur opinions are more valid:)

and i rly wonder why the chinese commentator agreed with slickd about CM losiing most games at ADL. mb this chinese ex pro player commentator also doesnt understand dota.



So we're supposed to pick heroes YOU think are fun to play? You are contradicting yourself saying that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, obviously we aren't, since we don't believe pudge is a fun pick. Nice going there for the first argument.

I haven't said I'm a pro dota player, nor do I believe I am. I'm saying we're better then SG.

Everyone enjoys dota. Wow, how naive. DotA is becoming LESS and LESS attractive due to the awful community and it's becoming less FUN, just look at all the oldschool players leaving and going inactive. Why do you think that is? DotA was their passion, but with this version and community it's getting worse and worse until people have taken the fun out of it. Clans and players disband all the time due to players not finding dota fun anymore. I mean what the fuck is the reason to play if it isn't fun? I can't seem to grasp that reason, maybe I'm not serious enough about my dotaplaying. I don't receive a salary for playing, nor saying I should, Maelk went over this matter in another thread/replay. He puts very good points to the matter actually. I might be unknown to you, but I believe most people (People in the actual scene who knows Dota, you obviously dont) recognize me.

Read what grunthor said about CM.

I said that about vigoss due to the fact that he jumps on bandwagons alot. All I'm saying.

2 years ago
#82
AkA-
hmm nice thread indeed although im not gonna mention the worst players imo because it will cause more flamewars. I'd also like to advice the future posters on this thread to keep their list to themselves no one really cares about it, this thread will only result in more upsets and flames

2 years ago
#83
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RubberNinja
ey vallerie stop talk to noobis :P or they maked you ded in hed


2 years ago
#84
memmon
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2 years ago
#85
ketchup_mayo
2010-01-17 00:52, MaTrim wrote:
2010-01-17 00:42, assassina wrote:
2010-01-16 23:48, MaTrim wrote:
He doesn't understand it by the obvious comments in the games that he lays down.

I mean, he has no knowledge of the players, no knowledge of the teams out there. Then suddenly he starts to flame us as a team, for picking strange heroes. Now here comes the funny part which he doesn't understand. DotA is a fun game to play.


We intend to keep it fun, so we won't have to quit. How do we do that? We play fun heroes which we enjoy playing. It's so easy to see that's he's so dumb, he justified the constant flaming in our games by "I like to see daeg play". Wow, what a bandwagon, another American liking daeg. I mean, most americans who likes Daeg or any player in our team WE know, but he has to jump on it because well, loads of people do it. Just check who he thought was the number one player, Vigoss. Another bandwagon. You probably weren't around the epic VP times.


He's totally biased in his comments and "analysis" of replays and such. There was an article at NAdota.com webpage, which had an article about the general dota community, and why it is so bad. He's one of the stereotypes in there.


Here comes the pubber with no understanding of the actual european scene since he hasn't been a part of any professional dota scene whatsoever

and matrim let me ask you this, do you consider your self a proffesional dota player:)? pls answer me. well let me answer for u. ur nowhere even close to semipro level.

and what a hypocrit. every1 enjoys dota, even more when theyre winning. but can u explain ur fun heroes? IVE NEVER SEEN DIPS PLAYING PUDGE IN GOSUGAMERS REPLAYS CARE TO SAY WHY?? let alone other fun heroes.. reason? u aren't a good pubby pudge? or u like to play same heroes over and over because others are not fun? keep convincing urself of the "fun reason".

vigoss was a really good player back in the days, or no, clan dips>>vigoss? or what, kwom>>vigoss? i dont understand pls state who was better than vigoss in the european scene since u only know this scene in his era of 48b.

atleast i now understand that u dont understand whats a forum for. its for discussing and debating. every1 is entitled to his/her own opinion. funny how dips never picked razor in a serious match be4 SMM, i bet if slickd discussed razor is good, u woulda also laffed and said what an "incorrect newbish opinion". sorry matrim but imo for me, u are unknown newbie with a head full of arrogance just because u play in a ??proknown ??? in the european scene who doesn't understand anything about strategy, only select few understand a bit about strategy.

another thing is that u didnt contributed anyhting to community, not opinions, not thoughts, not strategy.

dunno what makes u think ur opinions are more valid:)

and i rly wonder why the chinese commentator agreed with slickd about CM losiing most games at ADL. mb this chinese ex pro player commentator also doesnt understand dota.



So we're supposed to pick heroes YOU think are fun to play? You are contradicting yourself saying that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, obviously we aren't, since we don't believe pudge is a fun pick. Nice going there for the first argument.

I haven't said I'm a pro dota player, nor do I believe I am. I'm saying we're better then SG.

Everyone enjoys dota. Wow, how naive. DotA is becoming LESS and LESS attractive due to the awful community and it's becoming less FUN, just look at all the oldschool players leaving and going inactive. Why do you think that is? DotA was their passion, but with this version and community it's getting worse and worse until people have taken the fun out of it. Clans and players disband all the time due to players not finding dota fun anymore. I mean what the fuck is the reason to play if it isn't fun? I can't seem to grasp that reason, maybe I'm not serious enough about my dotaplaying. I don't receive a salary for playing, nor saying I should, Maelk went over this matter in another thread/replay. He puts very good points to the matter actually. I might be unknown to you, but I believe most people (People in the actual scene who knows Dota, you obviously dont) recognize me.

Read what grunthor said about CM.

I said that about vigoss due to the fact that he jumps on bandwagons alot. All I'm saying.


since u dont know how to argue or reply or even read. my answers were in my previous posts ill just quote
let alone other fun heroes.. reason? u aren't a good pubby pudge? or u like to play same heroes over and over because others are not fun? keep convincing urself of the "fun reason".

also if u aren't a pro player nor do u consider urself a pro player then why do u give urself the "right" opinion and more valid one than slickdragon?
Everyone enjoys dota. Wow, how naive. DotA is becoming LESS and LESS attractive due to the awful community and it's becoming less FUN, just look at all the oldschool players leaving and going inactive. Why do you think that is? DotA was their passion, but with this version and community it's getting worse and worse until people have taken the fun out of it. Clans and players disband all the time due to players not finding dota fun anymore. I mean what the fuck is the reason to play if it isn't fun? I can't seem to grasp that reason, maybe I'm not serious enough about my dotaplaying. I don't receive a salary for playing, nor saying I should, Maelk went over this matter in another thread/replay. He puts very good points to the matter actually. I might be unknown to you, but I believe most people (People in the actual scene who knows Dota, you obviously dont) recognize me.

funny to see u dont understand anything.. i wonder how closeminded ppl are. people quit dota in 6.41 and in 6.48b and not today's version. examples include coL. as a clan, travka(for a while), catQ, eljefeQQ, as well as many known players which will take time to name. but they dint quit cause dota less fun, ppl quit cause REAL LIFE. or because dota taking too much of thier time, or because of reallife issues. ofc you as a player might not find dota fun(som1 who is lowskilled clan that plays 0-20 support heroes in everygame ofcourse wont find it fun), because of the same european picks and playing style in everygame, constant repetition is not fun. but innovators are having fun as well as the whole pro player pool is rising, we see many new faces. the raeson to play is to have fun (pub), the reason to play in tournaments is to compete(satisfy ur ego, or show ur better than others, or simply because u like a challenge) as well as many other reasons. but the tensity in challenges definitly makes the dota game more worthy.
I might be unknown to you, but I believe most people (People in the actual scene who knows Dota, you obviously dont) recognize me.

Read what grunthor said about CM.
comedy perhaps? actual scene hahahahaha ahahaha u rly said "actual scene hahahaa ahaaaha. wait let me ask a chinese player or a malaysian or singaporean player about u. or no let me ask a european who will say ur just lowlevel material( aka insect in the dota world among the beasts).
read what i wrote. theorycraft and mathcraft are much different than dota. the result is what matters.
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2 years ago
#86
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grunthor
2010-01-17 00:42, assassina wrote:
longassquote flaming matrim with a lot of words and very little substance


You do realize that the european and the asian metagames aren't even remotely on the same pages, right..?
And you also realize that the game and the players are constantly evolving and players are also adapting all the time..?

"and what a hypocrit. every1 enjoys dota, even more when theyre winning. but can u explain ur fun heroes? IVE NEVER SEEN DIPS PLAYING PUDGE IN GOSUGAMERS REPLAYS CARE TO SAY WHY??"
You don't think there are some people that enjoy heroes that aren't pudge, or that some people might try to incorporate heroes they feel are interesting in some manner into their strategy?


About cm and ADL. I guess there's just a thin line between overrated and entirely fucking useless?

Furthermore I don't know where you're heading with the vigoss stuff, but you don't seem to have any kind of point there whatsoever.


"another thing is that i dont think contributed to community, not opinions, not thoughts, not strategy as much as slickd. dont kno if u even did. in a good way taht is."

I can't even make sense of this, and I have lots of practice with english that's so abused it's nowhere near comprehendable. Yet I still find this quote impossible to even remotely make sense of.


This is obviously a response to the earlier post, your latter post is just a mesh of nonsense.


2 years ago
#87
uniqueValeur


Let me repeat that.




Aight, first I'd like to plead once more for a closing of this thread - because guess what? It turned into a flame-thread (who could've guessed it?).

assassina you can attack Matrim and his team as much as you want, fact of the matter is that he still plays on a 'top' level of DotA (even if it's 'only' europe) and thus, he is both a better and wiser DotA player than you. Yeah I've said it. You can say that you are entitled to your opinion as a spectator - and that is true - but that does not make you right.

Bringing up the example of a spectator of lets say, european football (I refuse to call it soccer), yeah, sure, as an avid watcher of football you probably know alot about football teams and the players. But who knows more than you? Mmmmh, I dunno, maybe the ACTUAL players WHO ACTUALLY plays with and against other players? Maybe these guys know more about the skill level of certain players, the team dynamics, how the strategies works, how it's supposed to be played and etc. etc. etc.

If you kick a ball around in your backyard it does not give you deep insight into the mechanics of a football team, football players, football strategies and football games. Same goes for DotA.

Now lock this.

2 years ago
#88
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RanielFND
omg giant quotes is all I can see on this thread

2 years ago
#89
uniqueValeur
Oh btw, sorry for feeding the trolls again. I'm really trying to stop.

2 years ago
#90
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MATRIM
How narrowminded of you. I see myself way better then slickdragon in dota, by that measure does that make my point valid and better?? You seem like a legit guy LOL. How do you know why proplayers quit, just in this community there has been 2 wrong articles just in the last week.

I say we pick enjoyable heroes because we don't want to get bored by dota, yet you imply that I'm bored off dota? I don't see how my comments gives you that conclusion. I hear about this lowskille all the time, yet we play even versus most of the european teams. Mind explaining this one?


So the only reason to play in tournament is to get challenged/compete or satisfy ur ego. I won't even bother to dissect this since it's just plain retarded

2 years ago
#91
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Zieth
2010-01-17 01:21, assassina wrote:


Here comes the pubber with no understanding of the actual european scene since he hasn't been a part of any professional dota scene whatsoever

and matrim let me ask you this, do you consider your self a proffesional dota player:)? pls answer me. well let me answer for u. ur nowhere even close to semipro level.

Are you retarded? Not even close to semipro level?

They fucking beat LoH when he had 500 CS on Phantom Lancer, man if they are not instant legend after this then what it take?

2 years ago
#92
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rsa
dota doesn't require a genius IQ to play or to comprehend. it's not math or physics, so yes, I'd say that people like slackdragon are more knowledgeable about dota than you.

even people like maelk have proven to be extremely stupid, seeing as how he once thought asian dota was shit, despite having watched their replays. it just shows that even the top players aren't very bright; they're top players because they nerd more than the rest.

2 years ago
#93
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kuronity
#92 Yeah man... If I'd watch a few asian replays before SMM I'd totally understand their scene/metagame and exactly how it compares to the european.......................................
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2 years ago
#94
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meetya
why vallery taking everything so serious
btw top1 shud be morden from spaintard clan non who beat eg (so theyre semipro!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrTT3VeKR80
hes worse than temeka

2 years ago
#95
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grunthor
2010-01-17 02:10, rsa wrote:
dota doesn't require a genius IQ to play or to comprehend. it's not math or physics, so yes, I'd say that people like slackdragon are more knowledgeable about dota than you.

even people like maelk have proven to be extremely stupid, seeing as how he once thought asian dota was shit, despite having watched their replays. it just shows that even the top players aren't very bright; they're top players because they nerd more than the rest.



So basically because I'm a school dropout, and have a better grasp of this game than you it's a logical assumption that you're retarded?

Incase your DotA course for beginners failed to bring up the subject, this game is all about your moment-to-moment decisionmaking (apparently something that you've missed out on)

I won't deny that some players are plain out retarded, but drawing a line and generalizing every player after that model is an extremely flawed stereotypical view . . .
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2 years ago
#96
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grunthor
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2 years ago
#97
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slickdragon
#92 Yeah man... If I'd watch a few asian replays before SMM I'd totally understand their scene/metagame and exactly how it compares to the european.......................................


The thousands of replays were available to the masses at the major replay sights such as sgmaer and dota.replays to name a couple. Just b.c you and others decided there wasnt merit to be found in them and didnt analyze and assess their strength properly, doesnt mean other dedicated people didnt attempt to refine their previous ignorance. As history has shown those who did care to enhance their perspective and stand by their minority opinion turned out to be right (kuroky deserves special mention), and are now respected more for their ability to expand their horizons while others remained in their ignorance.

2 years ago
#98
busyar
I've only heard that DIPS players are jerks but maaaaan now I see that the people who kept saying it were right. Nice bait there, bro. Relly amusing ^^

2 years ago
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MATRIM
We're jerks for ripping on other people ripping us. Sure, I'm an asshole. but I'm not the only one here

2 years ago
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threethirtie
how is this thread not closed yet lol

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