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3 months ago

sirgling
Micro wc3/Sc (2127 reads, 74 replies)
Which of these games have the most and hardest micro involved?

i'm in a little argument with a friend and i want to pwn him.
I said Starcraft without a doubt, prough me wrong or agree, just hit me with what u got. I mean Jaedongs apm is at 400...
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3 months ago
#1

slama

   1
dont care about apm :D
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3 months ago
#2

EffOrt

 (Replay management SC)   9
Starcraft micro is harder then wc3 because the units die so quickly, in wc3 they take forever to die. for example in sc you have 1 reaver vs 6 lings the reaver can kill all lings in 1 shot unless they spread out and micro and in wc3 you can fight for minutes until 1 hero or unit dies
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3 months ago
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Lord_of_Chaos

 (StarCraft Editor (Trial))   17
None is harder ofc. What is hard for you will be as hard for your opponent, what is easy for you will be as easy for your opponent. You still need to have a higher skill than your opponent to win. So none is harder.

Anyone believe that the other is harder than the other is just trying to make a case for the game they prefer. You will always have to put more effort in to practising micro than your opponent to win over him, in both games. It's all about the competition you face in each game.
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3 months ago
#4

psyCrowe

   7
guru LoC just pwned this thread
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3 months ago
#5

PsychoZeD

   3
LoC is right :)... but i believe its harder to be good at SC micro because it takes more practise to reach an average skill-level..
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3 months ago
#6

pissluffarn

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#3 so true, i played bw for 5 years or so and have recently swapped to wc3 and in starcraft the units die faster, thats true but in wc3 every unit is valuable. it matters more to loose a grunt then loosing a zealot.

due to the experince and that the recource income is the same at start unless fastexp.
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3 months ago
#7

funNtwo

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well actually it is ment to be harder in wc3, as there isnt a real need to macro... or at least not, what sc gamers consider macro... and theres a shitload more of spells so you will have to focus more on the battle... and the fact that units die so fast, makes sc less micro heavy... look at gentleman f.g... he said himself, that he doesnt care about micro THAT much, rather macro really good. in wc3 u wont win anything with a good bunch of units if u dun micro them. in sc a click works fine...

//e: dun get me wrong! i aint saying a click is all you do, but u won't tell me 200 pop zergs try to micro their waves of units :-D its like, group, attack move, etc. thats what i mean with "a click".
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3 months ago
#8

BoxeR_Micro

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In SC, cuz in SC don't work ALT-button
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3 months ago
#9

funNtwo

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sorry, thats no argument :-D in sc there isnt a real need for that button, marines or lings die like... what? they were hit? and in battles, which are mostly pretty big, the units are dead, before u might do sth. serious about it.
ofc. if the expensive and lategame units die, it sux ass, but those are the ones you could get grouped ;-9
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3 months ago
#10

BoxeR_Micro

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#9 In PvP with mass goons this is real need button:-P
And mutastack, MnM vs lurker, reaver in shutlle need a lot of micro.
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3 months ago
#11

sD.AnTstYle

 (StarCraft Editor)   6
In an objective way, I would say that SC micro is harder, but in w3 it plays a bigger part, as you have less units to micro with.

I mean, in w3, what else do you have to do except micro - its one of the biggest aspects of the game, so I would say it is easier - as you have far, far more time to focus on it, especially given auto-casting of spells like inner fire and the fact that units have far more hp, but don't do much more damage than SC units do, nor a large attack speed.

There's also the fact that in W3 you can group 12 units together (its usually impractical to have more than 2 groups, you'd go over the supply limit unless they're all peons) and then use tab to go from grunts to shamans to witch doctors rather than having to select each one and cast individually. W3 units dont spellcast in the group way that BW units do, either; if you storm a patch of ground with 7 temps, they all cast it, but in W3 only one will cast it, so it's easier to cast spells faster.

Oh, and LoC, you could say that for any game, anywhere - in any game, the guy who is better at it will win, but that does not mean any random game i think of requires the same skill as Starcraft, does it?

2008-09-03 20:16:30, Lord_of_Chaos wrote:
You still need to have a higher skill than your opponent to win. So none is harder.



If i happen to be better than my friend at miniclip pong, I highly doubt that skill is as much as I would need to win at starcraft.
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3 months ago
#12

g_G

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SC = MULTITASK micro where u micro shitload of units scattered all over the f'ing map -- requires shit fast hand + super brain

WC3 = yippee doo micro your 1 hero, oh hey he has spells too so that makes much harder right???? -_- - requires moderate hand/brain but more of practice and perfection
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3 months ago
#13

Spiritus

   2
Some people seem to be confused by the fact that WC3 is micro oriented wich doesn't equal harder micro. I guess it's just as hard in both games. They both have advanced micro. I tihnk most SC players find it easier in WC3 becasue of the fact that you need close to no multitasking so it's easier to baby sit your units and focus completely on the micro.

But I love SC so I hope it's harder to master =)
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3 months ago
#14

MYM.PE

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Of course starcraft. The game is much faster.

The armys are way bigger. We do not really have autopell.

Both micro and macro is harder in SC on the pro level because the competion on SC PG (KOREA) level is much higher overall. The guys train 12-16 hours 6 days a week and the game is much older.

If you look at the international scene the difference isnt that big micro wise. SC on a top level is not much more difficult than in the top wc3 scene.
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3 months ago
#15

funNtwo

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well just to get things straight: i prefer sc over wc3, as wc3 has a lot of not quite imba, but let's say "unfair" aspects, whichmeans, u lose -> but its not really always ur fault / ur opponent didnt really play better. in sc u can counter too many expansions in the beginning, in wc3 u might get huge problems due to unit / hero combinations that aint that easy to break nor to counter, as ur race might be weak at one certain point of the game.
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3 months ago
#16

080485

   11
Yeah..all the noobs from starcraft should go to play wc3..there even they can be something ;)

Yeah..wc3 even mentally retarded can micro enough to compete at top levels..

wc3 = faceroll
sc= you actually need to pay attention what you do or you could lose in a sec
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3 months ago
#17

Qpad.Runa

   4
#5 said it
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3 months ago
#18

tellur_m4dC

   3
#11 is completely right o.o;
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3 months ago
#19

MaTTeX

   5
Its hard to say which micro is harder. They're different. Personally i find wc3 micro harder, but i never really got into wc3. In wc3 you have less units, but every unit counts while in sc if 20 rines go down it doesnt really matter. There's also a lot of diff spells you have to cast fast and you also have to know what spell to cast in diff situations.
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3 months ago
#20

BoxeR_Micro

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№16 I noob in WC3, but even i have strick with 15 win in a row. In SC only B max or better rank can do it.
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