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3 months ago
#61

iLLusioN.ReW

   10
2008-08-16 07:52:16, asdf12 wrote:
I basically pointed out what I didn't like about his post.

Ah, yes you did. Sorry for not reading that page. However, here comes the next question. What's the point in getting sickened by something? Or are you merely taking liberties with your words?

2008-08-16 11:03:49, rGz.ArChOn wrote:
poor little girl... i feel really sorry for her...

=)
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3 months ago
#62

Phantom[xz]

 (StarCraft Editor)   8
2008-08-16 11:04:44, rGz.ArChOn wrote:
2008-08-13 22:32:20, frankiman wrote:
well, thats is product of the communist goverment that china has.

XXI century and they still think that communism is good for "the folk"? ..,


XXI century and u still think that capitalism is fair for the working-class?



Don't know how fair it is, but capitalism has sky rocketed their economy over the past two decades hasn't it? [edit - no idea what i was talking about...] Interestingly enough over the years the number of billionaires in China have also skyrocketed, something like 10 to 106 in a one year span from 07-08?
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3 months ago
#63

Phantom[xz]

 (StarCraft Editor)   8
double post!
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2 months ago
#64

iluona

   2
=/ Remember that lip-syncing fake duo in America?

Villi Manilli or something? They even won a Grammy, remember?

Don't be so quick to criticize. Although in retrospect, having the "less-attractive" girl sing would've been best, it's already history - and no one was harmed or cheated. No one lost an award or medal because another girl lip-synched, or a contract or anything.

It's easy to criticize when observing, not so when you're actually there. And what if the "less-attractive" girl was crowd-shy? Would that be a plausible excuse for someone else to go on stage in her place? They're only little kids.
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2 months ago
#65

Phantom[xz]

 (StarCraft Editor)   8
2008-09-04 15:56:13, iluona wrote:
=/ Remember that lip-syncing fake duo in America?

Villi Manilli or something? They even won a Grammy, remember?

Don't be so quick to criticize. Although in retrospect, having the "less-attractive" girl sing would've been best, it's already history - and no one was harmed or cheated. No one lost an award or medal because another girl lip-synched, or a contract or anything.

It's easy to criticize when observing, not so when you're actually there. And what if the "less-attractive" girl was crowd-shy? Would that be a plausible excuse for someone else to go on stage in her place? They're only little kids.


They had their grammy revoked, and NO ONE supported them AFTER it was revealed that they weren't the real singers. Point?

Even if the girl was crowd-shy, the politburo gave their reasons, she did not project the image they wanted. THAT was their deciding factor, IMAGE, not the fact that the girl was crowd-shy.
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2 months ago
#66

Zeratul

   5
This shows things can't be perfect.

Aside of this, which indeed we shouldn't agree with but hell, it's going on everywhere, this was by far the best ceremony that existed it was an incredible show that the chinese have made. I'm still impressed and really curious how will UK manage to outclass it.

Cheers to the chinese organizers and to the thousands of volunteers that made this wonderful show possible.
Also cheers to the girl who sing that song, really good.

A big "fuck-you" to modern society's standards and image hungry imbeciles.
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2 months ago
#67

Kusel

   24
2008-09-04 16:55:56, Zeratul wrote:
This shows things can't be perfect.

Aside of this, which indeed we shouldn't agree with but hell, it's going on everywhere, this was by far the best ceremony that existed it was an incredible show that the chinese have made. I'm still impressed and really curious how will UK manage to outclass it.

Cheers to the chinese organizers and to the thousands of volunteers that made this wonderful show possible.
Also cheers to the girl who sing that song, really good.

A big "fuck-you" to modern society's standards and image hungry imbeciles.


yeah show is everything, do not let the world look into the dirty backside..
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2 months ago
#68

ETBrooD

   2
That's right Kusel. What do you think why there's a black guy and a woman in every movie/series? Not because the author wanted them in, they're in for the quotas. Actually that female and the black are instead male and white until the audience wants to see a female and a black. Ridiculous, not? No. That's how a show must be in order to attract a greater audience.

We - the audience - are at fault. Not the show.

edit:
lol btw I didn't mean to say that it's bad to have a female and a black in movies. But imagine a movie with 6 black people and 2 white guys. Such a movie will probably never reach gold status.
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2 months ago
#69

Kusel

   24
i am not the "we".
believe me,.. i am not
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2 months ago
#70

ETBrooD

   2
Well, it doesn't matter what part of the audience you are as long as you are in the audience.
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2 months ago
#71

Kusel

   24
sure show is everywhere... but people talking about the show and saying everything else is not important just make me sick ;D
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2 months ago
#72

ETBrooD

   2
True that. The question is can you change it or not?
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2 months ago
#73

Aurora_Phoenix

   8
Wow I haven't been here for a while and I now I see the prejudice against Chinese is here again. Once again, some of your pathetic comments make me feel sick.

Firstly, let's look at this incident in a general view, this action may cause some debate on whether it was appropriate or not, but I dont see how it will be a reason for you Westerners to attack China with this incident, let alone "communism".

Secondly, this action was reported to Olympic committee and it was APPROVED by the Olympic committee, even they did not protest against Chinese organization, who the hell are you to judge was it right or wrong? Of course you can state your opinion towards this incident, but to use it against Chinese Olympic committee and state your prejudices against us? It shows nothing but your racism and ignorance.

Lastly, most ironically, during 2000 Olympic in Sidney, Australia, the whole band which was playing under the stage was a fake one. YES, they did NOT play the opening songs, the broadcast played them! So why dont you Westeners bash Australia government first? Oh wait, probably they aren't communism. And why is communism and China bad? Well, our textbook stated it, so it must be. Once again, this thread and some of your replies show nothing but your prejudices against Chinese government and our people.

PS. Kusel your comparison between Chinese 2008 Olympic and Hitler's Olympic in Berlin is a very nice joke. Seriously, do you really think you have the right to say it?
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2 months ago
#74

Kusel

   24

PS. Kusel your comparison between Chinese 2008 Olympic and Hitler's Olympic in Berlin is a very nice joke. Seriously, do you really think you have the right to say it?


why not? cause i am german? is that the way u think? i am a different generation, you should really know that...


2008-09-05 13:08:24, ETBrooD wrote:
True that. The question is can you change it or not?

someone has to start it ;)
u wont change it, but if more and more doing critisze we can!
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2 months ago
#75

PsychoBaBas

 (StarCraft Editor (Trial))   9
Sorry to sidetrack a little bit off topic here but did you know the the famous series "Friends" was accused as racist against blacks because they didnt feature any black actors in the first seasons?

They only changed that in the 9th season when they included Ross's black girlfriend.
From wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends
"Aisha Tyler appears as the series' first recurring black character. [A black character was added to address the criticism the show had received for lack of diversity.]"

And how about Resident Evil 5? There has been huge controversy because it is set in Africa, meaning= white guy is shooting black zombies. Pathetic isn't it? Good thing Capcom-Japan didnt change that.
Here's an article about that:
http://www.ugo.com/ugo/html/article/?id=17659

So I'm wondering... Resident evil 4 should also be classed as racist as Leon gets to shoot only Spanish/ Latin mutants. Surely RE4 is banned in Spain and Latin America right? -__-
OMG you know what? The movie The Thing didnt have any female characters! Such a sexist movie! don't watch it people!

These are just simple examples of so-called political correctness getting way out of hand in my opinion...
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2 months ago
#76

xtruder

   2
I think all Kusel and Psychobabas should just tell people about how prejudiced they are against Chinese people instead of making and posting in threads like these. I mean, seriously- how obvious can you get?

like 1/4 of Psychobabas' threads are anti-chinese or anti-china. I don't make threads about the opium wars, even though my ancestors were victims of it. Psychobabas wasn't a victim of anything china or chinese people have done, yet he spouts like a madman about how chinese people are evil.

"oh i have chinese friends"

that doesn't mean shit. it's like the US senator that said he's not racist because he has black friends. I never say shit about America or Britain, lest make threads about it on a frikken STARCRAFT forum.

you should go do something more worth your time, like join the anti-chinese segment of the KKK

and Kusel- I know that Germany went through some rough times, blah blah blah and it's good that they're not Nazi anymore....

but get off that high horse, k?
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2 months ago
#77

Aurora_Phoenix

   8
Kusel, correct me if I am wrong. WWI and WWII were both ignited, with the major cause from Germany, by two different generations from two different political systems. WWI was started by German "emperor" Kasier and WWII was purely triggered by Hitler, with the support of your entire nation, am I wrong? In addition during WWII, Germans unleashed their hatred and racism towards the Jews, Gypses, and other minorities and massacred them, yes, it was done by the Nazis, I know that, but with whose support? The entire nation, am I wrong? Also, I heard in Germany is the legal formation of "neo nazi" party as well. So, the ultimate question is, which should we really protest against? Neo Nazi in Germany or Communism in China? I think the answer is very obvious, and yet you couldn't answer it, simply because of your prejudices.

I am not saying that you cannot, but If any of you really want to criticize China or its government, come and have some first hand experience before you make statements, or else it would only make you look like an ignorant fool.
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2 months ago
#78

PsychoBaBas

 (StarCraft Editor (Trial))   9
2008-09-05 22:45:47, xtruder wrote:
I think all Kusel and Psychobabas should just tell people about how prejudiced they are against Chinese people instead of making and posting in threads like these. I mean, seriously- how obvious can you get?

like 1/4 of Psychobabas' threads are anti-chinese or anti-china. I don't make threads about the opium wars, even though my ancestors were victims of it. Psychobabas wasn't a victim of anything china or chinese people have done, yet he spouts like a madman about how chinese people are evil.

"oh i have chinese friends"

that doesn't mean shit. it's like the US senator that said he's not racist because he has black friends. I never say shit about America or Britain, lest make threads about it on a frikken STARCRAFT forum.

you should go do something more worth your time, like join the anti-chinese segment of the KKK

and Kusel- I know that Germany went through some rough times, blah blah blah and it's good that they're not Nazi anymore....

but get off that high horse, k?


Right...........

So I am "anti-Chinese" because I'm criticizing China?
I dont usually say things like this, but I'm on holiday at the moment so I dont really care:

You Are Talking Out Of Your Ass

What is wrong with you not accepting any criticism? If the thread was about criticizing the UK for example, I would write a whole essay. (and I will in 2012 most probably ;)

Stop being so goddamn sensitive and open your mind... My country has problems and so does yours. Accusing me of being against anything Chinese is ridiculous, as I know I am anything but. So I'll just brush that aside... And you are saying that Im accussing Chinese people of being EVIL. Are you serious?

Just because I'm criticizing your governments' actions doesn't mean I hate you or your country. You are more than welcome to criticize my country but neither will I say you are anti-UK nor will I lose my pride for England. Go ahead and open a thread.

In my country (and on the internet) I can express my opinion whenever I want. Now, I know for a fact that Chinese people generally avoid talking about their government/ political system, but you are just presenting a massive stereotype to whoever is reading this thread.

PS: Just out of curiousity and please answer truthfully: Do you live in China (ie native Chinese)?
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2 months ago
#79

HackCraft_NubWar
Aurora_Phoenix
About that "support of WW II" thing:
It's easy for a fascist state to manipulate the population so that they may not support the government fully, but at least they won't do anything. And then they have free reign. Dictators do that with intimidation. Hitler's regime oppressed the whole population. The police was managed by Hitler, and if you tried some kind of rebellion you were simply executed, imprisoned or sent to a concentration camp. So what do you think the rest of the population will do once they see that happening? Be happy and support their government further? Certainly not. But no one wanted to be considered an enemy of the state, so only few people did something against the Nazi regime. Some also left the country before the whole situation became too crazy.

Here are three well-known quotes you should remember, because they are very interesting and apply to all times, all countries and all people.

1.)
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak out for me.
- Niemoeller


2.) All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.


3.) Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.
- Goering
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2 months ago
#80

Phantom[xz]

 (StarCraft Editor)   8
2008-09-06 18:47:42, Aurora_Phoenix wrote:
Kusel, correct me if I am wrong. WWI and WWII were both ignited, with the major cause from Germany, by two different generations from two different political systems. WWI was started by German "emperor" Kasier and WWII was purely triggered by Hitler, with the support of your entire nation, am I wrong? In addition during WWII, Germans unleashed their hatred and racism towards the Jews, Gypses, and other minorities and massacred them, yes, it was done by the Nazis, I know that, but with whose support? The entire nation, am I wrong? Also, I heard in Germany is the legal formation of "neo nazi" party as well. So, the ultimate question is, which should we really protest against? Neo Nazi in Germany or Communism in China? I think the answer is very obvious, and yet you couldn't answer it, simply because of your prejudices.


Are you comparing German democracy and free speech to a one-party ruled system where transparency and accountability is lacking? =D...
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