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Replays \ FTD vs cD
Posted by onevoice
Added 2 years ago
Event SGNDT '09 Finals
Map v6.64
Patch 1.24
Player one
FTD
Player two
cD
Winner:

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SGNDT Replays List

Grand Final (Game #2)
China FTD China cD
Bans
Crystal Maiden Morphling Pandaren Brewmaster Shadow Shaman
Spectre Broodmother Nerubian Assassin Vengeful Spirit
Picks
Necro'lic Shadow FiendLightning Revenant
Tidehunter Naga SirenDemon Witch Earthshaker
Shadow PriestNecrolyte Tinker
Lanes
Sentinel
Shadow Fiend ForTheDream� (Top)
Necro'lic sGty.KingJ.FTD (Mid)
Naga Siren sGty.Zsmj.FTD (Bot)
Tidehunter FTD.sharingan� (Top)
Shadow Priest sGty.Gx.FTD (Bot)
Scourge
Demon Witch cD.insence (Top)
Tinker cD.zhou (Mid)
Necrolyte cD.SanSheng (Bot)
Earthshaker cD.mamamiya (Roaming)
Lightning Revenant cD.ZippO (Top)


GameMode: -cm
Length: 48:28 Minutes

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#101 crfgvn 2 years ago
#98 i dont defend chinese playstyle nor do i say theyre boring or whatever....
I ONLY said that "money prize doesnt affect playstyle" and that "gamers DEFINITELY dont have to act accordingly to spectators" . Thats all
And no rly, watched replays of the tournament where OS | One won. Nearly flawless
And i dont care about this final THAT much you know. To be honest im not even done watching it
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#102 kiogan 2 years ago
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKK MYM CHAMPIONS?NO
FTD KKKKKKKKK
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#103 TheZoor 2 years ago
Well it was really boring but considering the trophy at stake and their usual style, it wasn't anything we didn't expect. A very solid - despite being surpriseless - game from FTD who deserve their win ! Barely any mistake from both teams, finals level of playing ^^
And don't think we're not giving Asians the praise they deserve. They did awesome, with very regular perfomances, but most of us are saying it just misses the spark of excitement.



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#104 crfgvn 2 years ago
^ my fav series/games 15 years ago :((
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#105 Obsession 2 years ago
Naga used twice, pretty much proves Asian Dota > European Dota.

Gratz to FTD too, still annoyed MYM went out early to stupid picks though
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#106 vrae 2 years ago
Before the tournament, europeans: euro dota > asian dota. Me:...

After the tournament, europeans: asian dota is very boring. Me:...
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#107 Animalidad 2 years ago
They came to win and not to entertain, That is it. Give them credit, Seldom do you see a game with almost no mistakes at all. Both teams were both reluctant to initiate a clash because of what's on stake. So please people, Learn to appreciate.

Congratulations, sGty
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#108 Feb_ 2 years ago
Grats', though I'd loved a team more exiting like Ks to win. The funniest games of this tournament are made from Ks definitively ( and I'm not talking about the 3 divine YmT, but about their whole playstile, really for what it may counts, for me they won the cup ).

GG WP ALL.
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#109 OKilled 2 years ago
#106 if u wanna win now u should play with 2-3 carry...it make the game boring...IceFrog should change something...like the first team that make 10 kills win 500 gold for each player...or the first team that take 3 towers win 250 gold each...so on...cuz in this way is too boring dota...played and watched...
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#110 morbix 2 years ago
it should be not recommended 7/7 kills in 29 mins
#111 -Playfish- 2 years ago
whats with the turtle strats dude? why dont u make a team all of u haters and challenge them
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#112 akosibuboy 2 years ago
@Asians:
Stop this nonsense argue against Euro ...
We can't blame them for their jealousy and failed so hard after the Euro's best can't even stand a chance to play in the Playoffs ...

* Asian replays are boring ...
then, Go blame ICEFROG for making this game in favor for the turtle gaming style

Asians just know how to adapt on the better playstyle ...
From the ganking style of 6.43b to the turtle style of 6.64 ...

- Maelk (euro) definitely know it . MYM always on the winning side (at euro tourneys) playing turtle style because he knows it is the better playstyle on this dota versions ...

- MYM (with Kuroky as leader) knows it too . He just added the more aggressive style on turtling (too bad, Asians are far more better than them) ...

+1 #106 ...
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#113 Jukijuice 2 years ago
First, I'm really confused about how all these asians are failing at math. I tell you what, send 2 good asian teams to a European tourney and see how well they do! If there are only 2 non-asian teams then there is a good chance they wont win. You freaking morons from both Europe and Asia think that where you are from matters in dota. I want to stomp the crap outta your low powered minds.
Second, I dont think the best Dota team won this game. I thought either MYM/PI/CT/KS would win this because in my opinion they were the best teams at this tournament. But, DOTA is a lot like any sport or game. A team could play MYM 20 times and lose 19. But if that 1 game was in a single elimination tournament then it doesn't matter.
For the love of god, think think think before you post. Buncha Biggot assholes on this site. This "omg asia turtle" "omg europe copycat" shit needs to be deleted. Waste of time.
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#114 bonanza 2 years ago
~3 carries is the best strat and if you aren't pleased with that go whine to IceFrog, these guys played for money and glory and of course they aren't going to play some retarded mass gank strat by Euros: it doesn't work when the enemy team has brain and skills.

GG FTD, arguably the current best team in DotA.
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#115 __raIden 2 years ago
That was boring at 2x

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#116 crfgvn 2 years ago
#113 errmmm how about you google "ESWC dota 2008" . That fits exactly what you just described.
And dont be shocked at the result =)
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#117 kentakky 2 years ago
#113 Did you not watch ESWC? Zenith + KS I think only Asian teams and they finish 1st and 2nd when MYM came in 3rd place.

But yeah you're right in a way there should be a tournament with equal amount of american, euro and asian teams. Still I think asians would be in the top since they always stick to their game when MYM or w/e try to adapt and make their own asian strats or w/e instead of playing what they're good at.
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#118 Harlekairi 2 years ago
Well of course they had to do it to win, but the game is still fucking boring, and it stays as fucking boring.
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#119 socqol 2 years ago
#118 no one forces u to watch the replay. just stfu and grow up.
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#120 Zhalakin 2 years ago
Most replays from this tournament has just been ZzZzzZzzZzzZzZzzZzz. Sorry to say so, but farm wars are just so freaking boring to watch, and the asian style is all about ricing.

Anyway gz to FTD and gz to china, all top 3 team where chinese :)
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#121 akosibuboy 2 years ago
#113 epic fail ...
enuf said #116, #117 ...

Now who's 'failing at math', 'freaking moron', 'low powered minds', 'Biggot asshole'

Now it's your time to think think think before you post ...
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#122 grustardo 2 years ago
all in all dota sucks !!! blame icefrog for farming > action, involving imbalanced passive items that makes dota to a skillless game!

reduce creep gold ... remove (hero)skills and items ... make supportive items like force staff, eul, etc much more important!

otherwise quitting dota best dicision imo

tactic and disciplined teamplaying ftw... ban/draft/itembuilds seems to be the most interesting part of the game zzzZzzz

gratz to the winner who really know how to win!

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#123 nilsen1 2 years ago
#112 icefrog fault asian can't find anything else than the agility-taverns?
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#124 Emotech 2 years ago
CD got outplayed and OUTNUMBERED
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#125 Dajdouzz 2 years ago
TURTLEEEEEE FTW !
Damn this Smm was one of the most boooring Tour ....
Only FARM FARM FARM FARM !!
China > All (in farming)
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#126 soundjata 2 years ago
Almost 2 months after Chengdu tournament, FTD rolls CD one more time

http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season4/chengdu/news/101470/
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#127 SicknO 2 years ago
I watched 50% of the replay, then I had to fking turn it off.
Asian dota are so fking boring.
Nothing is happening at all.
Farm for 40 min, then push and win.....YAY!!
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#128 natz 2 years ago
STFU fanboys..

"A win is a win"

Asian teams owned this event. That's the reality.

Wake up pls? ffs
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#129 quainter 2 years ago
boring to newbies who dont appreciate the finer tactical aspects of the game perhaps. this tournament is a lesson of map awareness, strategy and teamfight.

everytime a team gank FTD, another tower falls on some other lane. they timed their pushes perfectly, tped wisely, and have near maphack awareness.
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#130 juanjo1 2 years ago
who farm more is the winner poor replay thanks------ dont watch it. it is a total sheet ...thanks mym for got funny picks and kuroky for try to beat them at their game....
Just play gank style :D not boring and robotic style
thank ks.int and euro.dota for show us that dota is more than farm and farm
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#131 SicknO 2 years ago
#128 Oh thats so sick, because it was only 98% asian teams.
How can they own the event when they are only 98% of the teams + playing in asia at the same time?

They really went against the numbers this time!
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#132 nephren 2 years ago
3 things
-MyM getting owned as a consequence of a huge community idolizing them and
putting a huge pressure on a 17 year old teenager.Psychology is big factor

-Clash between 2 completely gaming cultures and the Asians come on top.
Shows that the west ignores some important things

-Icefrog must watch this final and rethink about the latest version now that
"6.65 is coming along nicely", lol.
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#133 Aoyos 2 years ago
FOR THE SLEEP!
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#134 SAY_XYTEK_PLZ 2 years ago
Now Asian trashtalk Europe because MYM went to SMM and played some fucking shit they haven't played before, 1 team from Europe and you conclude that Asia > Europe? Come on........
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#135 DD17 2 years ago
132# I agree with you, making such a pressure on a 17 year old could be a very good reason why they lost.

#113 You got a very good point there, which many choose to ignore.

I just know that mym played very bad and they could have gone way further.

On topic: Congratz to FTD, good tactical play.
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#136 Ritsuke 2 years ago
#134 is just like #113, another f*ing blind guy who hasnt goggled ESWC dota 2008 obviously.

And not just ONE team from europe, the supposedly BEST and most consistent team in europe.

Sore loser. Wait till Asia sends 5 teams to Euro/USA lan tourneys against your 50 and still come out 1st -5th. Then you can finally quit dota cuz you got nothing else to say.
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#137 DotaisForFun 2 years ago
Let us consider all the teams that MYM has beaten. Since Asia is better than Europe/USA/Canada and especially MYM then all of the teams that MYM has beaten are third rank. They are the C team of dota. Just some perspective there.
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#138 esmund 2 years ago
Fact about Euro Troll Fanboys.











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#139 Aoyos 2 years ago
Zero respect for MYM,and specially for KuroKy after saying all that crap about "Turning these turtles into killing machines" he comes and tries to rice in a tournament where he's supposed to represent the so called "gank-oriented" way of dota.I never expected them to win but this was completely disappointing,and It's not like ricing helped them,as we all know it was the complete opposite.

Nevertheless, I must say there was like 2 genious moves in the whole tournament,boring farm-fest,though I'm certain this version offers much more ways to gank than the previous ones and therefore I would prefer that the most-skilled teams of today(asians) changed their playstyle for the sake of the game,and who knows,since so much changed the past few versions they might even win using ganking line-ups against ricing ones!

#138 I am no eurofanboy,but you are an asianfanboy if you say any of those matchs were exciting,this is also a fact!

I'm certain no one will dare to say they've saw one of the best games of their lives or even close to that in this supposedly "best" tournament DotA has ever had,not even top 100.
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#140 Aoyos 2 years ago
About Icefrog being obliged to do serious changes to DotA as a response to ricing-style winning everything,we just don't have any proofs that it wins hence no team tried ganking to begin with,not even MYM.:D
#141 heksen 2 years ago
So true #138
There were a lot of good games @ this SMM. Especially KS vs Aeon.sg
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#142 akosibuboy 2 years ago
#129 . +1 ...

#138 . The real truth undeniably reality exact fact !
With this event they are now blaming and telling icefrog what he should do . ROFL
#143 koboldofthesea 2 years ago
#138
Being american chinese, watching the Ehome vs PokerIdols game, I wasn't too sure who to root for, I wouldn't mind if either won. Unfortunately, these asian turtling statements are based on truth to some degree. Asians only really know how to play a very good turtle, as 820 said in his last interview.
Though here, PokerIdols is NOT european, you can see that Ehome never been ganked so hard in their life. PokerIdols outplayed them in every single gank, even DemoN ganking them solo 3v1. And YES DotA does need to be modified a little, there is something wrong when Ehome can make a comeback after being outplayed entire game. Don't get me wrong, I wanted Ehome to win, just not this way.
Euro dota trolls, Asian dota trolls, will always exist. Once one side wins a couple games, trolling starts. Best to just ignore the trolling and don't become a troll yourself (hint hint).
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#144 esmund 2 years ago
#139 - I didn't say that it was exciting. But some of it are, you can't denied it.

Example like Avava vs PokerIdol & AEON vs Kingsurf. I don't know about other replay, because this are the only replay I watch so far for SMM tournament. I don't know you will like this two replay or not.

And I'm not some kind of Asian fanboys. To be honest, I watch European dota replay more than Asian dota replay especially MYM. But what I don't like was how those Eurofanboys flame on every asian replay. Comment like, How boring this replay was(even though they didn't watch it). And they always find excuses when their team lost. I think its really bias to all the Asian team. And of course its not fair to all the asian fans getting flame.
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#145 blurified 2 years ago
congrats FTD .. for the dream !
you all worked hard for the dream, and i believe you all deserve it.
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#146 Mr_Wo_OT 2 years ago
Icefrog should really nerf Jah'rakal he seems to be replicating!
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#147 busyar 2 years ago
Voted for surprise and surprise it is :3
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#148 Apoplexy 2 years ago
#143, that was one fucked up game. That's THE lamest victory by asians, seriousely, they got MAJORLY outplayed, but still manage to turtle it.. Yes, they have turtle skills, but who the f gives a shit about TURTLE POWER.
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#149 OKilled 2 years ago
only icefrog can help us,he must undestand that farm and farm and farm rouin dota!!!he should nerf late items-dps...give less gold for farm and more for kill!!!




#143 WORD
#150 bigrock 2 years ago
#143 True EHOME got ganked really hard in that game, but IMO that is what makes them such a great team:

-They kept their composure under such pressure
-They kept that Ursa from going out of control during teamfights
-They know how to clash in a teamfight and executed it real well

I don't think they were outplayed the entire game, or they would've lost. Under those circumstances where you had such a terrible early game, most teams would've lost if they just 'turtled'.
 

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