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Loveen talks about the Nirvana issue
Posted by Terrence "MrBlue" Wong 1 year ago
A while ago, it was let known to the world that the all-star team that formed Nirvana.Int had left the organization, citing unpaid salary issues. Today, Loveen and Mushi offered their statements on the issue.Statement from Chang "Loveen"Jun Sheng, owner of the Nirvana organazation:
-"Firstly, I would like to say my apologizes to the Fear, Demon, Azen and the rest of the Nirvana.int members. Due to some contradiction on my part as well as my own immaturity led to their unfair treatment.
I am not a person that likes to stand out and start accusing people or explain much. I strongly believe that no matter what a person says, there will a day when everything will be revealed. Too much explanation will only reveal things about the organization that should not be revealed which will only cause more trouble.
I have already settled their unpaid salary issues and I am grateful for all the effort they put into Nirvana.int. I wish them all the best in their new team.
On a side note, I have already started planning the world's first World DotA Championship which is due to be held in WuHan, China in November. I will be inviting four of the best teams from Europe to compete, with accommodation and food paid. I do not need to pledge the validity of my claims, every team from China and Asia can vouch for me. There will be $40,000 prize money up for grabs, all it takes is for you to try your luck at taking it home."
-"Firstly, I would like to say my apologizes to the Fear, Demon, Azen and the rest of the Nirvana.int members. Due to some contradiction on my part as well as my own immaturity led to their unfair treatment.
I am not a person that likes to stand out and start accusing people or explain much. I strongly believe that no matter what a person says, there will a day when everything will be revealed. Too much explanation will only reveal things about the organization that should not be revealed which will only cause more trouble.
I have already settled their unpaid salary issues and I am grateful for all the effort they put into Nirvana.int. I wish them all the best in their new team.
On a side note, I have already started planning the world's first World DotA Championship which is due to be held in WuHan, China in November. I will be inviting four of the best teams from Europe to compete, with accommodation and food paid. I do not need to pledge the validity of my claims, every team from China and Asia can vouch for me. There will be $40,000 prize money up for grabs, all it takes is for you to try your luck at taking it home."
Statement from Chai "Mushi" Yee Fung, Captain for Nirvana.my
-"First of all, I would like this say hi to all the Nirvana.my fans out there. The reason I’m here is because I felt that I should stand out and clear Loveen’s name. There were no salary issues for Nirvana.my or even Nirvana.cn from the start until now. Sometimes, payment came late due to wire transfer problem from China. Loveen pays every single cent for our salary and also our LAN trips. Regarding the salary issues, Nirvana.int had things already sorted out between the team and Loveen.
It would be better if members of ex-Nirvana.int come out to clear Loveen’s name. For the WDC prize money, I can assure that he will be pay out every single cent to the winners. The money is there; do you have the ability to win it, that’s the main point."
-"First of all, I would like this say hi to all the Nirvana.my fans out there. The reason I’m here is because I felt that I should stand out and clear Loveen’s name. There were no salary issues for Nirvana.my or even Nirvana.cn from the start until now. Sometimes, payment came late due to wire transfer problem from China. Loveen pays every single cent for our salary and also our LAN trips. Regarding the salary issues, Nirvana.int had things already sorted out between the team and Loveen.
It would be better if members of ex-Nirvana.int come out to clear Loveen’s name. For the WDC prize money, I can assure that he will be pay out every single cent to the winners. The money is there; do you have the ability to win it, that’s the main point."
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| oh plz dont put an end to this... this is so much better than tv shows |
| read the comment on #91 why should he still lie? before he left he was several month there without paid and there where no problems at the start. |
great drama.  but seriously, things like this gotta change if the dota scene wants to really develop professionally, but hey! it's not as if my mumbling here is helping or anything. well, i'd rather be an idealist as opposed to just making the situation worse by putting in shitty side-comments or taking up sides without sufficient evidence ti back up my siding with someone. just gl to loveen and the rest of the former nv.int players. hope you guys settle this soon and call it gg.  |
| I want DotA players to be guests on the Maury Povich Show e.g. "And the lie detector says, you are lying you've been using maphack on 5 separate occasions" Puppey would be interviewed by Maury as Loveen waits backstage. EPIC show. Then Madmortigan would be shoutcasting.hahaha LOL Jerry Springer would also be nice. |
| Probably loveen paid (almost) everyone else but Puppey since Puppey was the instigator of the big break up and name callings.. And when puppey + kuroky rejoined the team, it was not official and approved by Loveen as it was just an initiative by demon + fear etc. Calling out your colleage and boss as suck ups is probably not the best way to get your salary paid though. Until other (official) nv.int members speak up, i think this is probably what happened. |
Loveen so rich !  |
| afaik the $ should be transfered today & it should go through by the end of the week.. |
| Loveen I think he is another "bill clinton"-" I did not have sexual relations with that woman" ^^. loveen is businessman so i dont think he should throw money out of the window. I hope that i am wrong! |
| #50 yeah your "No" is fucking valid as a pub star. And one of the biggest sponsors at DotA is not valid although he came up with a professional player not a pub star like you to confirm his words. Not to mention that this sponsor made his effort to write 2-3 paragrafs of explanation while you the pub "star" wrote just a "No". Go play more eedl, calm down and ask yourself why sponsors are not going to pay your noob face and your noob team a cent. Act more like a kid and expect a fucking salary... in your dreams my boy. When you grow up to act like a bussines man you are allowed to write just a "No" untill then we the smart guys from the DotA community are going to ask for more explanation than just that. For fuck sake grow up and maby some day you the "big guys" in DotA are going to earn respect from the community and from the sponsors. |
| ^ His no > you and your little wall of text there. |
| I think it's better to explain things rather than say "No". |
| I suppose puppey expect to get paid by loveen while he slander+team hopping for months. LOL Here is what's wrong with european scene. Look at the amount of dedication devoted, do they really think they deserve to get paid as "professional"??? It is all about principles, taking out your hard earned cash to sponsor european "pro" is not just waste of money, it also makes the sponsor felt like a complete idiot. |
| @ Kky, |
| #112 Nevertheless he helped! Nv.Int @ESWC, because they lacked a member and even if he didnt deserve to get all his months salary (dont think so), he should atleast get his money for ESWC! btw he wrote another comment on site 2... #91 or something like that |
| @ Vigoss, |
@Ducky |
| -_- Danny...U set the trolls loose.. |
| #109 What gives you the right to call yourself smart and who are you to talk about business? Some of my countrymen have too much unjustified self-confidence. I doubt you are better than him to call him a noob. |
| @ #117, np used to it |
| stop calling everything "troll" My message was actually to danny. If you want to contact someone (kuroky, my grandma, no matter who) you don't just expect him to browse through 3 pages of shitstorm... unless it's important for you to show this to everybody. |
| If Loveen agreed to pay Nv.int and Puppey and ultimately did not, as according to Puppey and others, then there should be no excuses. It's a disgrace for members of the community to insinuate Nv.int didn't deserve the money -- if they were promised it, they deserved to have it paid out. This discussion of whether they deserved the money that Nv.my and Nv.cn were getting is asinine. To be honest I think Loveen dodged the question. Puppey and co. should provide a comprehensive statement if they don't think Loveen is being forthright. |
| in my view point, loveen still appear as the bad man here...until he explain what really happen |
| @ #120, oh thx for your "concern".. i do know what i am doing, & i expected some people will try to try act funny but nvmd wonder why some ppl are such busybody when the msg is obviously not to them, but they still clicked (which is ok), but then wanna give useless comments.. nvmd it's so called "freedom of speech" i guess.. cont speculating then.. |
I think #109 had his period yesterday.. Ppy did give an explanation later(comment #91) and hes not obligated to type anything here..Get ur facts right bfore u flame. @ #120 "stop calling everything "troll" Your comment #115 @ Vigoss, I assume you'll read this sooner or later. I received your message, thx. See you tonight at 2009's party. Is not trolling but Wise and informative speculation on the news article on this page? |
| ..................disputes disputes zzzzzzzz |
| lol Danny89 if you don't want people to read stuff that isn't for them, don't put it in public comments. Just seems like attentionwhoring. and #124 ur just epic fail. |
| Hopefully Loveen will keep all his promises about the WDC. Btw I would be really curious to know how much Nv.cn / EHOME players get paid :D |
| @ #126, well i am Sorry that ppl here tend to take things negatively but the msg did went thru & that's what important for me.. PS: i dont think i need attention like this to get famour or what |
| For all of this, Hope to see Demon, Fear and Azen playing. You're my idol. |
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