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Riot Games vs Valve Software

Posted by Hwa Soo "MeaNy-" Cho 1 year ago
Not so long after Valve Software has filed a trademark for DotA, Riot Games has made a response.

Riot Games is the game production company that has created League of Legends, a game that resembles DotA. Valve Software, too, is developing another DotA game that many believe would be the most successful successor to the original DotA as Icefrog, the current DotA mapmaker is involved in the Valve's DotA project.

Valve has recently filed a trademark for "DotA". Three days after, on August 9th, Riot has counter-filed a trademark for "Defense of the Ancients", the unabbreviated name of DotA. According to Riot Games' Steve "Pendragon" Mescon, Riot has "filed for the 'Defense of the Ancients' trademark to protect the work that dozens of authors have done to create the game and on behalf of the millions of DotA players all over the world". Furthermore, Pendragon has stated in an interview with PC Gamers that DotA belongs to the original creators, Guinsoo and Eul, without mentioning Icefrog.

Riot Games' ultimate wish is to let DotA or Defense of the Ancients be contributed to the community. However, how would they explain their irony in filing a trademark for Defense of the Ancients themselves? Furthermore, who exactly has the right to decide the ownership of DotA? Who has more power over it? Hopefully, more of these questions may be answered in the future.

To read the full interview between Pendragon and PC Gamers, visit the source listed below.


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#51 Digital-Archangel 1 year ago
DotA 2 will destroy LoL, only reason . FU Pendragon .
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#52 dajingman Denied comment. 1 year ago
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#53 5hogun- 1 year ago
I feel like punching pendragon in the face for infinity, that mofo...
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#54 vanish205 1 year ago
Dota = IceFrog .... No more Shits !! ...

Elu and Gun .. didnt do half of what IceFrog Did to Dota ..

For sure all in for icefrog / Valve .. Noobs go to hell .. ( Pendragon / Riot )
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#55 AMOKinHOUSE 1 year ago
hm, why is pendragon so much retarded last years?
#56 Red_ Denied comment. 1 year ago
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#57 ozgunguner_99 1 year ago
#38 P.P.S.: I vote for a guinsoo nerf 6.69



I think this items' name should be Guinsoo The Loser on next map...
But i know Icefrog respects past mapmakers but feels very upset now.
We are all behind u Icefrog!!!
#58 Dotafanatic 1 year ago
Well, wud've seen this coming knowing what kind of little whiny b*tch Pendragon is and what an epic fail LoL has become. That interview sux too.
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#59 Jukz 1 year ago
hi, my name is pendragon and i like to suck my dick
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#60 Dinozavre 1 year ago
#55 Cause he finally could make money by making DotA into a standalone game, and now that Icefrog is making one, he knows that most people will go there.
#61 ketchup_mayo Denied comment. 1 year ago
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#62 Beast_Pete 1 year ago
This again shows that IceFrog > Pendragon.

Edit: ohh and how come he wants to protect DotA from Valve and closes dota-allstars.com eventhough he promised not to leave it behind hen he joined up with Riot Games? Hypocrisy.
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#63 aetos 1 year ago
Valve took the initiative to create an independent engine with help of current devoloper rather than making their own games like demigod hon or lol.... Only icefrog can do with this game and valve is the right place to do it... so pendragon go to hel
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#64 Jukz 1 year ago
#61 -> Retard??
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#65 BluesmokE 1 year ago
Since the original creators didn't trademark it and discontinued developing and it was picked up by IceFrog and since he is working with Valve and they had the right idea of trademarking, they should get it.

Edit: They can trademark DotA or Defense of the Ancients but most will still support IceFrogs project. They made the game, yes. But IceFrog made the game what it is now and that's what is important to us gamers.
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#66 Dinozavre 1 year ago
#64 You just got trolled lol, so hard to ignore?
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#67 Akhss_ 1 year ago
ice frog knows perfectly the 'gameplay' of dota. all these copies like hon,lol etc are a lot different style and feeling than the original dota.
so, valve+icefrog>riot.
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#68 OKilled 1 year ago
i swear,will nevermore make an Eul Scepter or Guinsoo!!!






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#69 Kragx 1 year ago
All respect to League of Legends as a standalone game in the MOBA genre. All respect to Riotgames for making their OWN game.

But trying to claim Defence of the Ancients as a trademark is just a dickmove, they don't have to do.

Honestly, it's mainly HoN that should be afraid of DotA 2 stealing their player base.
#70 ketchup_mayo Denied comment. 1 year ago
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#71 Jukz 1 year ago
#66 lol its kinda hard to resist it tho
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#72 Dinozavre 1 year ago
#71 Sure, if they are low level trolls, this guy is the ultimate troll, you CAN'T do anything to him.
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#73 Pr0toSS 1 year ago
Let's ask Icefrog himself and we will get answers on all our questions..
#74 restlessfingers 1 year ago
I LoL[ed] @ Pendragon , ahahaha
you can kiss ice-frog's ass now....
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#75 MiLe 1 year ago
#38 AMEN BROTHER!
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#76 quazor 1 year ago
If icefrog along with valve can make better game than riot, they will do it and we will play it no matter how its gonna be named. This brand is not a automobile market or sth like that. Online gamers chooses best fun for them, not fun which is to be known as best. On the other hand riot's policy is ugly.
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#77 ztoa03 1 year ago
Icefrog and the beta testers.
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#78 Jukz 1 year ago
#70 i give up brother lol you're the strongest troll i have ever faced :D
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#79 BS.Smurf- Denied comment. 1 year ago
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#80 AMOKinHOUSE 1 year ago
#70 ahahah I cant stop laughing at this guy
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#81 ozgunguner_99 1 year ago
"Riot Games' ultimate wish is to let DotA or Defense of the Ancients be contributed to the community. However, how would they explain their irony in filing a trademark for Defense of the Ancients themselves?"
Posted by Hwa Soo "MeaNy-" Cho

Just explains everything...
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#82 Estraz 1 year ago
Uhhuh, he did it on behalf of the millions of dota players, sure. Even though most of those (of those active in the dota community at least) are waiting with anticipation for Valve's project.
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#83 pombaa 1 year ago
Valve owns, Icefrog will win this ez

Riot games sucks, srsly
#84 bebemorto 1 year ago
OK WHOS WITH ME

LETS GET SOME GUYS AND GO BROKE PENDRAGON AND EULS KNEE WITH A BASEBALL BAT

SIGN HERE

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#85 celestial 1 year ago
What riot does:
Hey there is a popular unlicenced game called dota, cmon guys we just steal the idea, copy it and call it uum i dont now "league of legends"? Oh crap valve noticed too now they wanna make dota2 when this comes out we are screwed...

What valve does:
Oh nice game cmon we sit together with the developer icefrog and create a second better version to improve the game.

What I do:
Fuck you riot i will never play League of Legends, HoN or some other copied shit i will just play where icefrog is involved.
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#86 Seph 1 year ago
ketchup_mayo = Troll Warlod
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#87 godlike_Efre 1 year ago
84# what did euls do to you???
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#88 PALove 1 year ago
In ICEFROG we Trust!!!
Never make Eul Scepter or Guinsoo, I swear !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#89 Muncken 1 year ago
LOL is a disgrace to the DotA community and has done nothing but split the community.

I really, really hope, for the sake of competitive DotA, that if Valve's project goes well, that it will dominate the competition, and all the sad DotA clones will disappear...

DotA is still better than both HON and LOL by such a huge margin...
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#90 cupankecil 1 year ago
First, won't be using eul and guinsoo again ingame.. cause it's a LoL..
Second, In IceFrog we trust..
Third, #85+1
#91 Kardelicous 1 year ago
i hope both don't make it pay to play
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#92 Wendiesel 1 year ago
pendragon blows, gg kid
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#93 seyle 1 year ago
#84 that sounds like something cartman would say
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#94 Missleader 1 year ago
What really would be the problem for valve/icefrog is to prove that this trademark "DotA" belongs to them and not riot games. Icefrog has no real ownership over the title. Dont really see how, in a legal point of view, how either of them can win it.

If Riot Games didnt file a trademark request the request from valve would have been undisputed and therefore going to valve.

Even if Icefrog and valve ends up losing this fight over "DotA" they can just name it something else

Edit: read the "interview"... pendragon said 1 thing over something like 6 questions. Worthless
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#95 RaleQ 1 year ago
Blizzard needs to work with IceFrog to make DotA 2. Or we will end up with HON LOL clone

Whos with me that blizzard needs to work with IF to make DotA 2. MSG me or Sign my guestbook, i make petition. :)
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#96 Messi 1 year ago
Don't get angry people...It isn't PenisDragons fault.
He's in puberty period, that's normal.
After that he'll go back to his cave again.
Just ignore him.
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#97 IceBaby 1 year ago
Did you guys even see this LoL game?

Most ridiculous baby "2D" game I've ever seen. To those who play LoL, just play Tetris or Mario on old Gameboy.. They're far more exciting and less nub'ish.

Point is, fu Pentdragon. Leave us alone =)
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#98 Messi 1 year ago
Oh by the way, if penisdragon really does all this for his so called love to the DotA community, why doesn't he just leave the community decide who gets the trademark DotA name?
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#99 RaleQ 1 year ago
Read my comment #95
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#100 Look.a 1 year ago
Guinsoo: "Neither Pendragon, Riot Games nor I have any desire to dictate the future of DotA."

So what's their buisness in all this?

They also mention that DotA is something that should remain so called community-owned, and the first thought that popped up in my head was; and how is this going to change when "DotA 2" comes out? Anyone got any ideas? :)

Im excited that DotA gets to be a stand-alone game and not some mod in a soon-to-be 10 year old game. And for that matter, Im glad that someone finally can make some serious money out of it all. I dont know with you guys, but Im not playing DotA bcoz its free. I can play any game for free through m8s, cracks and trials. But the games I stick too are those which I think is great, in this case: DotA. tyty Icefrog xoxoxo
 

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